1 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,830 foreign 2 00:00:35,569 --> 00:00:30,710 back on the record the time is 305 this 3 00:00:39,410 --> 00:00:37,850 okay before the break 4 00:00:41,630 --> 00:00:39,420 um we talked a little bit about your 5 00:00:43,190 --> 00:00:41,640 relationships with somebody you worked 6 00:00:47,569 --> 00:00:43,200 with did you ever have any sexual 7 00:00:49,190 --> 00:00:47,579 relations with any uh contractors of SBA 8 00:00:52,910 --> 00:00:49,200 no 9 00:00:54,350 --> 00:00:52,920 about any volunteers of spa 10 00:00:56,689 --> 00:00:54,360 do you ever have a sexual relationship 11 00:00:59,450 --> 00:00:56,699 with the executive assistant 12 00:01:00,350 --> 00:00:59,460 with Valerie is that the first one we 13 00:01:02,270 --> 00:01:00,360 were talking about that's the only one 14 00:01:03,770 --> 00:01:02,280 yeah 15 00:01:05,570 --> 00:01:03,780 okay and you've got never had anyone 16 00:01:07,070 --> 00:01:05,580 else and claim they're being taken 17 00:01:10,070 --> 00:01:07,080 advantage of 18 00:01:13,490 --> 00:01:10,080 not that I know of 19 00:01:14,929 --> 00:01:13,500 and those distributions each month eight 20 00:01:18,530 --> 00:01:14,939 to twelve thousand dollars in your 21 00:01:20,950 --> 00:01:18,540 account for the 22 00:01:24,170 --> 00:01:20,960 proceeds 23 00:01:26,210 --> 00:01:24,180 what months are those heavier on the 12 24 00:01:27,890 --> 00:01:26,220 000 compared to the 8 000 side I'm not 25 00:01:31,010 --> 00:01:27,900 prepared to answer any of that stuff I 26 00:01:32,270 --> 00:01:31,020 don't that's more of the GES business 27 00:01:36,350 --> 00:01:32,280 kind of 28 00:01:39,230 --> 00:01:36,360 uh deposition stuff I mainly focused on 29 00:01:41,870 --> 00:01:39,240 preparing for all the personal 30 00:01:45,410 --> 00:01:41,880 and I mean the actual business numbers 31 00:01:48,170 --> 00:01:45,420 and all of that I I did not refresh 32 00:01:49,969 --> 00:01:48,180 myself before I came in 33 00:01:52,069 --> 00:01:49,979 okay 34 00:01:58,550 --> 00:01:52,079 we can get all that information too 35 00:02:01,969 --> 00:02:00,590 are you as a matter of fact Leon should 36 00:02:04,749 --> 00:02:01,979 have access to that because he has 37 00:02:07,789 --> 00:02:04,759 access to the dashboard 38 00:02:09,589 --> 00:02:07,799 so he should be able to log in and see 39 00:02:10,490 --> 00:02:09,599 all distributions 40 00:02:12,770 --> 00:02:10,500 okay 41 00:02:13,970 --> 00:02:12,780 and if if he doesn't have access you 42 00:02:16,910 --> 00:02:13,980 would give him that access that does 43 00:02:18,650 --> 00:02:16,920 yeah I can create I think they said I 44 00:02:20,750 --> 00:02:18,660 can create like an account 45 00:02:22,670 --> 00:02:20,760 that allows people to come in like for 46 00:02:24,350 --> 00:02:22,680 possible investors or people I'm 47 00:02:27,170 --> 00:02:24,360 pitching to for them to come in and look 48 00:02:30,290 --> 00:02:27,180 and stuff I guess so I can maybe create 49 00:02:33,470 --> 00:02:30,300 an account for you 50 00:02:36,309 --> 00:02:33,480 to disseminate to them okay and is it 51 00:02:39,530 --> 00:02:36,319 true that as far as above Majestic that 52 00:02:43,309 --> 00:02:39,540 the numbers I have here are Richards had 53 00:02:45,290 --> 00:02:43,319 25 percent of the proceeds Quarry good 54 00:02:49,910 --> 00:02:45,300 you had 20 55 00:02:54,350 --> 00:02:49,920 Wilcox had 15 Jordan at 15. do those 56 00:02:58,369 --> 00:02:57,110 I can't really recall I mean do you have 57 00:03:01,130 --> 00:02:58,379 any reason to disagree with those 58 00:03:03,050 --> 00:03:01,140 numbers I have no reason to think that 59 00:03:05,390 --> 00:03:03,060 you're gonna give me false numbers right 60 00:03:06,650 --> 00:03:05,400 now but uh but do you have any reason to 61 00:03:07,850 --> 00:03:06,660 disagree with those numbers I just gave 62 00:03:09,890 --> 00:03:07,860 you I 63 00:03:11,570 --> 00:03:09,900 know and in addition with the remaining 64 00:03:16,009 --> 00:03:11,580 25 percent it would have been somehow 65 00:03:21,949 --> 00:03:19,190 I guess if that's what I don't I don't 66 00:03:24,229 --> 00:03:21,959 know do you believe that Kennedy 67 00:03:29,149 --> 00:03:24,239 had an interest in the proceeds of above 68 00:03:39,530 --> 00:03:32,030 I can't remember I'd need documentation 69 00:03:45,589 --> 00:03:41,809 have you ever paid anyone through 70 00:03:46,250 --> 00:03:45,599 Western Union to survey or surveil 71 00:03:47,809 --> 00:03:46,260 um 72 00:03:49,970 --> 00:03:47,819 private property of anybody who's 73 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:49,980 criticizing you 74 00:03:53,990 --> 00:03:51,360 um there 75 00:03:58,009 --> 00:03:54,000 um let's see yeah there was a incident 76 00:03:59,270 --> 00:03:58,019 where I see Roger Richards had created a 77 00:04:03,890 --> 00:03:59,280 video 78 00:04:05,570 --> 00:04:03,900 um calling Richard Dr Greer a pedophile 79 00:04:08,449 --> 00:04:05,580 and all these other things and he had 80 00:04:12,649 --> 00:04:08,459 put it out anonymously and he told me 81 00:04:16,210 --> 00:04:12,659 you know if I put a little fear into 82 00:04:18,469 --> 00:04:16,220 Bill Ryan somehow that that would 83 00:04:21,349 --> 00:04:18,479 stop things he was not a real good 84 00:04:24,230 --> 00:04:21,359 influence on me but yeah there's a guy 85 00:04:26,210 --> 00:04:24,240 that bill Ryan had been leading the 86 00:04:28,850 --> 00:04:26,220 cyber stalking groups back in the past 87 00:04:32,210 --> 00:04:28,860 people even came to our houses it was 88 00:04:35,270 --> 00:04:32,220 really scary and bizarre but yes there 89 00:04:38,170 --> 00:04:35,280 was a guy that sent us an email from 90 00:04:41,330 --> 00:04:38,180 Ecuador and he said 91 00:04:42,590 --> 00:04:41,340 Bill Ryan is causing all these problems 92 00:04:44,870 --> 00:04:42,600 and 93 00:04:46,370 --> 00:04:44,880 um you know with the people in the area 94 00:04:49,969 --> 00:04:46,380 I was talking about all the stuff that 95 00:04:53,749 --> 00:04:49,979 he was doing crime supposedly and uh 96 00:04:56,450 --> 00:04:53,759 said that uh and we we spoke back and 97 00:04:59,210 --> 00:04:56,460 forth and I finally I said would you 98 00:05:03,350 --> 00:04:59,220 send me videos of his house and of 99 00:05:05,210 --> 00:05:03,360 places around the city uh and and he did 100 00:05:06,770 --> 00:05:05,220 and I can't remember how much and this 101 00:05:09,650 --> 00:05:06,780 is of whose house 102 00:05:11,990 --> 00:05:09,660 uh Bill Ryan okay the one of the chief 103 00:05:16,070 --> 00:05:12,000 cyber stalkers and what was uh Mike 104 00:05:17,150 --> 00:05:16,080 waskowski uh knowledgeable about this I 105 00:05:19,490 --> 00:05:17,160 don't think so 106 00:05:20,930 --> 00:05:19,500 why not 107 00:05:23,390 --> 00:05:20,940 I don't 108 00:05:25,490 --> 00:05:23,400 Roger and I 109 00:05:28,310 --> 00:05:25,500 Roger edited the video 110 00:05:31,610 --> 00:05:28,320 I 111 00:05:33,950 --> 00:05:31,620 the that person sent the um that person 112 00:05:36,830 --> 00:05:33,960 yeah that I can't remember his name so 113 00:05:40,909 --> 00:05:36,840 I'm trying in Ecuador that was neighbors 114 00:05:43,210 --> 00:05:40,919 with uh Bill Ryan sent me the video I 115 00:05:46,850 --> 00:05:43,220 sent the video to uh 116 00:05:49,909 --> 00:05:46,860 Roger Roger edited it all together added 117 00:05:53,870 --> 00:05:49,919 music to make it all scary and then he 118 00:05:55,310 --> 00:05:53,880 had a he posted it out I think to the 119 00:05:57,770 --> 00:05:55,320 internet in a way that it wouldn't go 120 00:06:01,189 --> 00:05:57,780 back to be traced back or something to 121 00:06:03,529 --> 00:06:01,199 you to any of us since it was us that 122 00:06:05,029 --> 00:06:03,539 did it and so why did you make that 123 00:06:08,390 --> 00:06:05,039 video why did you cause that video to be 124 00:06:10,670 --> 00:06:08,400 made well Rogers said he thought his 125 00:06:12,710 --> 00:06:10,680 Roger always refers to himself as a thug 126 00:06:14,510 --> 00:06:12,720 and he says sometimes these Thug tactics 127 00:06:17,090 --> 00:06:14,520 are what it takes to get over other 128 00:06:22,070 --> 00:06:17,100 thugs to back down I let him influence 129 00:06:23,809 --> 00:06:22,080 me a couple of times but uh you know 130 00:06:25,909 --> 00:06:23,819 you know when he was dealing with people 131 00:06:28,129 --> 00:06:25,919 and he said I went I had to go Thug on 132 00:06:30,050 --> 00:06:28,139 this person or Thug on that person I 133 00:06:31,730 --> 00:06:30,060 didn't really realize what he meant 134 00:06:34,610 --> 00:06:31,740 until things went South between me and 135 00:06:36,650 --> 00:06:34,620 him but he meant actual Thug 136 00:06:38,270 --> 00:06:36,660 but when he said that to you I have to 137 00:06:40,129 --> 00:06:38,280 go we have to go Thug on that person or 138 00:06:41,570 --> 00:06:40,139 we need to go Thug on that person you 139 00:06:43,730 --> 00:06:41,580 would agree 140 00:06:46,670 --> 00:06:43,740 um no he would tell me after the fact he 141 00:06:48,830 --> 00:06:46,680 would say this person uh was being a 142 00:06:50,450 --> 00:06:48,840 total pain in the ass like with involved 143 00:06:51,950 --> 00:06:50,460 with business and he said I had to go 144 00:06:53,330 --> 00:06:51,960 Thug on them well you just sent our 145 00:06:55,850 --> 00:06:53,340 emails you just said we need to go 146 00:06:58,969 --> 00:06:55,860 without as in future tense oh yeah he he 147 00:07:02,529 --> 00:06:58,979 did say about on that film he did say uh 148 00:07:04,550 --> 00:07:02,539 that you need to go Thug on these people 149 00:07:09,469 --> 00:07:04,560 that's the only thing that works on 150 00:07:12,110 --> 00:07:09,479 Thugs and he said that he so I created 151 00:07:14,870 --> 00:07:12,120 um well I didn't create the video I got 152 00:07:17,029 --> 00:07:14,880 the video sent to me and then those 153 00:07:19,610 --> 00:07:17,039 videos were sent to Roger and then Roger 154 00:07:22,010 --> 00:07:19,620 created the video and I believe he's the 155 00:07:24,710 --> 00:07:22,020 one that posted it out so you uh endorse 156 00:07:27,589 --> 00:07:24,720 these Thug tastic tactics in advance but 157 00:07:29,290 --> 00:07:27,599 sometimes it was inner ears well we had 158 00:07:31,550 --> 00:07:29,300 people uh 159 00:07:33,770 --> 00:07:31,560 threatening Us coming out to our house 160 00:07:35,029 --> 00:07:33,780 we had cyberstalk it was getting to a 161 00:07:36,469 --> 00:07:35,039 point to where it was getting really 162 00:07:39,890 --> 00:07:36,479 scary 163 00:07:42,290 --> 00:07:39,900 um and he uh Bill Ryan is a criminal 164 00:07:48,110 --> 00:07:42,300 that had fled other judgments and stuff 165 00:07:50,089 --> 00:07:48,120 to Ecuador a non-extradition area and he 166 00:07:52,909 --> 00:07:50,099 was hiding in the non-extradition area 167 00:07:55,610 --> 00:07:52,919 causing all kinds of problems not just 168 00:07:58,850 --> 00:07:55,620 for me but for other people but yeah 169 00:08:00,230 --> 00:07:58,860 unfortunately I did go along with Roger 170 00:08:06,529 --> 00:08:00,240 on 171 00:08:08,930 --> 00:08:06,539 um kind of after the fact he told me 172 00:08:11,809 --> 00:08:08,940 about the video with Dr Stephen Greer 173 00:08:13,370 --> 00:08:11,819 where he like really put some very nasty 174 00:08:14,809 --> 00:08:13,380 stuff out about him 175 00:08:18,589 --> 00:08:14,819 and released it through an anonymous 176 00:08:21,409 --> 00:08:18,599 video isn't it true that uh 177 00:08:24,290 --> 00:08:21,419 that waskowski would testify to the fact 178 00:08:28,010 --> 00:08:24,300 that Richards refused to make this video 179 00:08:32,930 --> 00:08:29,570 um that would be interesting because 180 00:08:37,190 --> 00:08:32,940 Roger Richards is the one that edited it 181 00:08:39,529 --> 00:08:37,200 together and put the music to it 182 00:08:40,790 --> 00:08:39,539 um I think I I edited them like they 183 00:08:43,010 --> 00:08:40,800 weren't in sequence I just put it all 184 00:08:44,990 --> 00:08:43,020 together into one big file sent it to 185 00:08:48,530 --> 00:08:45,000 Roger and he put them change put them 186 00:08:50,210 --> 00:08:48,540 all in sequence added music and I think 187 00:08:51,410 --> 00:08:50,220 he's the one that finally published it 188 00:08:52,730 --> 00:08:51,420 but I'm not sure 189 00:08:55,550 --> 00:08:52,740 because he's the one that published the 190 00:08:58,430 --> 00:08:55,560 anonymous video about Dr Greer 191 00:09:00,110 --> 00:08:58,440 okay and did my client this youngbud 192 00:09:02,449 --> 00:09:00,120 want to tell you about how her daughter 193 00:09:04,670 --> 00:09:02,459 was being stalked and you suggested that 194 00:09:06,530 --> 00:09:04,680 you could send someone out to talk to 195 00:09:09,710 --> 00:09:06,540 this stalker and set them straight no 196 00:09:11,210 --> 00:09:09,720 who said this didn't you suggest that to 197 00:09:13,970 --> 00:09:11,220 my client as young one 198 00:09:17,269 --> 00:09:13,980 that I could send someone out yes I that 199 00:09:19,070 --> 00:09:17,279 sounds like a Roger uh response okay so 200 00:09:20,570 --> 00:09:19,080 you never said that not that I can 201 00:09:22,550 --> 00:09:20,580 remember I don't remember ever saying 202 00:09:24,170 --> 00:09:22,560 that if maybe you can give me more of 203 00:09:27,829 --> 00:09:24,180 the actual 204 00:09:30,410 --> 00:09:27,839 incident sure her daughter being stalked 205 00:09:34,009 --> 00:09:30,420 your your response I'll help send 206 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:36,889 only thing that I could have offered is 207 00:09:41,630 --> 00:09:39,120 I knew people who 208 00:09:43,730 --> 00:09:41,640 um do background searches former police 209 00:09:45,009 --> 00:09:43,740 and all of that that could help could 210 00:09:47,930 --> 00:09:45,019 help do what 211 00:09:49,130 --> 00:09:47,940 caused the problem to go away how would 212 00:09:51,590 --> 00:09:49,140 they cause a problem to go away if 213 00:09:53,570 --> 00:09:51,600 there's a stalker well usually they 214 00:09:55,009 --> 00:09:53,580 these people have connections with local 215 00:09:56,170 --> 00:09:55,019 police 216 00:10:01,310 --> 00:09:56,180 um 217 00:10:03,230 --> 00:10:01,320 are all retired military and retired 218 00:10:06,110 --> 00:10:03,240 police a lot of them have contacted me 219 00:10:08,030 --> 00:10:06,120 since I've come out and you know just 220 00:10:11,329 --> 00:10:08,040 liked my work and I became friends with 221 00:10:12,490 --> 00:10:11,339 them and uh I also served in the Texas 222 00:10:16,070 --> 00:10:12,500 state guard 223 00:10:19,670 --> 00:10:16,080 with FBI members and all sorts of other 224 00:10:21,410 --> 00:10:19,680 people and uh you know in the past if 225 00:10:24,410 --> 00:10:21,420 someone is has a problem they're getting 226 00:10:26,690 --> 00:10:24,420 stalked or or whatever then they you 227 00:10:29,030 --> 00:10:26,700 know you give the information to your 228 00:10:34,850 --> 00:10:29,040 friends they contact the police motivate 229 00:10:37,910 --> 00:10:34,860 them to act or they uh you know send 230 00:10:42,050 --> 00:10:37,920 emails to the people to try to uh like 231 00:10:44,389 --> 00:10:42,060 uh if it's a young person that is uh 232 00:10:46,130 --> 00:10:44,399 stalking someone they would like you 233 00:10:48,410 --> 00:10:46,140 know contact their parents or whatever I 234 00:10:50,769 --> 00:10:48,420 mean it's that's these are like retired 235 00:10:53,090 --> 00:10:50,779 policemen but because of your status 236 00:10:55,250 --> 00:10:53,100 formerly you believed you had influence 237 00:10:57,009 --> 00:10:55,260 to get something done or because some of 238 00:10:59,690 --> 00:10:57,019 these other people had former status 239 00:11:02,509 --> 00:10:59,700 well because I was a public figure they 240 00:11:05,630 --> 00:11:02,519 looked up to me if I would have asked a 241 00:11:07,550 --> 00:11:05,640 retired police officer or uh or a 242 00:11:10,370 --> 00:11:07,560 colonel or whatever that I spoken to to 243 00:11:13,069 --> 00:11:10,380 uh talk with Adrian and help them come 244 00:11:15,050 --> 00:11:13,079 up with a game plan with stalkers they 245 00:11:18,290 --> 00:11:15,060 would probably more be be more than 246 00:11:22,069 --> 00:11:18,300 happy to okay now let's switch to the 247 00:11:23,389 --> 00:11:22,079 cause if you were trying to say that I 248 00:11:25,970 --> 00:11:23,399 was you know talking about people that 249 00:11:29,810 --> 00:11:25,980 were better Crushers that's yeah 250 00:11:31,130 --> 00:11:29,820 next question is about the cosmic Secret 251 00:11:34,870 --> 00:11:31,140 um 252 00:11:40,970 --> 00:11:34,880 my understanding is Richard's good 253 00:11:46,190 --> 00:11:43,190 do you remember any of those percentages 254 00:11:48,410 --> 00:11:46,200 approximately not out of memory now did 255 00:11:51,769 --> 00:11:48,420 Richard's percentage stay the same from 256 00:11:53,090 --> 00:11:51,779 above Majestic to the cosmic secret I 257 00:11:54,290 --> 00:11:53,100 can't recall 258 00:11:55,910 --> 00:11:54,300 okay 259 00:11:59,090 --> 00:11:55,920 yeah would you do you believe that your 260 00:12:01,130 --> 00:11:59,100 percentage has changed at all from the 261 00:12:02,569 --> 00:12:01,140 above Majestic production to the cosmic 262 00:12:04,310 --> 00:12:02,579 Secret 263 00:12:06,710 --> 00:12:04,320 who it has now since I bought out David 264 00:12:09,350 --> 00:12:06,720 Wilcock okay other than buying out David 265 00:12:11,569 --> 00:12:09,360 Wilcock did your percentage interest in 266 00:12:13,970 --> 00:12:11,579 the cosmic secret go up from what it was 267 00:12:16,550 --> 00:12:13,980 in the above Majestic I 268 00:12:17,750 --> 00:12:16,560 I believe it may have gone up a little I 269 00:12:19,730 --> 00:12:17,760 can't 270 00:12:21,470 --> 00:12:19,740 I don't recall where would you look to 271 00:12:23,690 --> 00:12:21,480 to find that information 272 00:12:26,389 --> 00:12:23,700 documentation what documentation would 273 00:12:30,050 --> 00:12:28,310 repeat the question again sure what 274 00:12:31,430 --> 00:12:30,060 documentation would you have that would 275 00:12:33,769 --> 00:12:31,440 refresh your recollection on the 276 00:12:35,630 --> 00:12:33,779 percentages as far as the profits from 277 00:12:37,430 --> 00:12:35,640 the cosmic Secret 278 00:12:40,069 --> 00:12:37,440 I don't know the names of the documents 279 00:12:42,470 --> 00:12:40,079 I saw them kicking around in all of this 280 00:12:44,870 --> 00:12:42,480 you brought some documents today hard 281 00:12:46,730 --> 00:12:44,880 copy you brought some documents soft 282 00:12:49,910 --> 00:12:46,740 copy that I think that stuff was stuff 283 00:12:52,610 --> 00:12:51,530 let me finish my question 284 00:12:55,490 --> 00:12:52,620 sorry 285 00:12:57,949 --> 00:12:55,500 uh you brought some documents soft copy 286 00:12:59,569 --> 00:12:57,959 some documents hard copy did any of the 287 00:13:01,550 --> 00:12:59,579 documents you brought in a hard copy 288 00:13:04,009 --> 00:13:01,560 format outline 289 00:13:05,569 --> 00:13:04,019 the distribution percentages 290 00:13:07,850 --> 00:13:05,579 between everyone I don't know what's 291 00:13:11,030 --> 00:13:07,860 hard and what's not this is hard 292 00:13:12,650 --> 00:13:11,040 I I don't know what you have there sure 293 00:13:13,790 --> 00:13:12,660 you didn't look over the documents you 294 00:13:15,670 --> 00:13:13,800 brought today I didn't look over the 295 00:13:21,110 --> 00:13:15,680 paper documents 296 00:13:26,090 --> 00:13:23,210 there's one document kicking around that 297 00:13:27,949 --> 00:13:26,100 Leon provided that uh 298 00:13:40,329 --> 00:13:27,959 has that information I don't know if 299 00:13:44,930 --> 00:13:43,730 did you ever see the percentages in a 300 00:13:48,470 --> 00:13:44,940 different 301 00:13:50,509 --> 00:13:48,480 uh numerical ratio than you believe to 302 00:13:52,610 --> 00:13:50,519 be true and correct or is it when Leon 303 00:13:57,530 --> 00:13:52,620 produced it to you was it the correct 304 00:14:01,910 --> 00:13:59,329 we just need to find it I don't remember 305 00:14:03,350 --> 00:14:01,920 seeing jumping up and down and saying oh 306 00:14:06,050 --> 00:14:03,360 no that's wrong that's wrong on 307 00:14:07,910 --> 00:14:06,060 something but at the same I I would 308 00:14:09,889 --> 00:14:07,920 rather have the document in front of me 309 00:14:11,389 --> 00:14:09,899 to be honest do you have another copy of 310 00:14:14,150 --> 00:14:11,399 that document 311 00:14:16,730 --> 00:14:14,160 uh you only brought one copy Council we 312 00:14:22,970 --> 00:14:16,740 didn't bring any paper 313 00:14:28,610 --> 00:14:26,389 this is what I thought you brought no 314 00:14:32,449 --> 00:14:28,620 only hard copies of anything we brought 315 00:14:34,190 --> 00:14:32,459 was the franchise Bible and the 316 00:14:43,790 --> 00:14:34,200 okay 317 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:54,790 yeah those are tax documents 318 00:14:54,800 --> 00:15:02,269 back on the record at 3 19. 319 00:15:06,230 --> 00:15:04,310 did you ever claim ownership of her 320 00:15:10,069 --> 00:15:06,240 comic book called Return of the 321 00:15:16,490 --> 00:15:12,829 yeah Return of the Guardians was the 322 00:15:18,670 --> 00:15:16,500 comic book that we put out as a thank 323 00:15:21,710 --> 00:15:18,680 you to people who pre-ordered 324 00:15:23,030 --> 00:15:21,720 the graphic the old graphic novel The 325 00:15:25,430 --> 00:15:23,040 Graphic novel I have now is a totally 326 00:15:27,949 --> 00:15:25,440 different one 327 00:15:34,009 --> 00:15:27,959 to thank the person that the people who 328 00:15:43,790 --> 00:15:37,250 when you say we put out who's the we 329 00:15:48,170 --> 00:15:46,550 uh and what work did you do on the 330 00:15:51,470 --> 00:15:48,180 intellectual property for the comic book 331 00:15:53,509 --> 00:15:51,480 Return of the Guardians it was based on 332 00:15:57,710 --> 00:15:53,519 all the information that I'd already put 333 00:16:02,269 --> 00:16:00,350 okay and who's entitled to the profits 334 00:16:06,829 --> 00:16:02,279 from that there were no prophets it was 335 00:16:06,839 --> 00:16:11,150 okay has it ever been sold no 336 00:16:15,110 --> 00:16:13,069 okay what about the the not graphic 337 00:16:16,610 --> 00:16:15,120 novel 20 and back 338 00:16:18,230 --> 00:16:16,620 we never 339 00:16:20,750 --> 00:16:18,240 um completed that because of all the 340 00:16:24,110 --> 00:16:20,760 damage uh Roger had done to the 341 00:16:25,730 --> 00:16:24,120 storyline and uh the all the Arts and 342 00:16:28,129 --> 00:16:25,740 everything was not contiguous didn't 343 00:16:31,090 --> 00:16:28,139 match it was a horrible horrible mess so 344 00:16:34,970 --> 00:16:31,100 we had to go higher a professional 345 00:16:39,590 --> 00:16:37,850 uh who was amazing and then we started 346 00:16:43,030 --> 00:16:39,600 from scratch and completed this 347 00:16:45,350 --> 00:16:43,040 completely different graphic novel 348 00:16:47,210 --> 00:16:45,360 this is not the same graphic novel that 349 00:16:49,009 --> 00:16:47,220 I was working on with your clients this 350 00:16:50,930 --> 00:16:49,019 is a completely different product okay 351 00:16:52,790 --> 00:16:50,940 was uh 352 00:16:55,430 --> 00:16:52,800 responsible for doing the art 353 00:16:57,769 --> 00:16:55,440 on the graphic novel 20 and back on the 354 00:17:00,410 --> 00:16:57,779 old one no he was not responsible he 355 00:17:05,449 --> 00:17:00,420 just laid out bullet points for the 356 00:17:06,770 --> 00:17:05,459 story and uh gave the artist basic 357 00:17:08,630 --> 00:17:06,780 instructions which weren't enough 358 00:17:11,169 --> 00:17:08,640 because it wasn't a script so the artist 359 00:17:15,230 --> 00:17:11,179 basically 360 00:17:18,289 --> 00:17:15,240 uh spoke to me all the time about how 361 00:17:20,990 --> 00:17:18,299 the art should look and go so 362 00:17:23,390 --> 00:17:21,000 um he and I we have there was a whole uh 363 00:17:26,449 --> 00:17:23,400 Facebook group we used for a while just 364 00:17:27,130 --> 00:17:26,459 for that and we used that and then 365 00:17:31,610 --> 00:17:27,140 um 366 00:17:36,529 --> 00:17:31,620 telegram I believe is how he and I uh 367 00:17:38,330 --> 00:17:36,539 would communicate one-on-one okay so I 368 00:17:40,190 --> 00:17:38,340 was working on it but he didn't complete 369 00:17:42,590 --> 00:17:40,200 it didn't get the art it was half-ass 370 00:17:45,409 --> 00:17:42,600 working on it because I didn't want to 371 00:17:46,490 --> 00:17:45,419 okay but he he did some of you say he 372 00:17:49,490 --> 00:17:46,500 didn't want to how did you know he 373 00:17:51,470 --> 00:17:49,500 didn't want to he said I don't want to 374 00:17:54,409 --> 00:17:51,480 okay do you ever put that an email or a 375 00:17:56,510 --> 00:17:54,419 text to you uh he called me and tried to 376 00:18:00,470 --> 00:17:56,520 talk me out of it I think it's probably 377 00:18:04,310 --> 00:18:00,480 uh in well my response talks between uh 378 00:18:06,950 --> 00:18:04,320 Leon and me uh are are there where Leon 379 00:18:08,450 --> 00:18:06,960 acknowledges you know the situation that 380 00:18:10,190 --> 00:18:08,460 Roger didn't want to do the book he had 381 00:18:12,830 --> 00:18:10,200 to talk Roger into it as a matter of 382 00:18:14,630 --> 00:18:12,840 fact Roger wasn't supposed to be 383 00:18:16,430 --> 00:18:14,640 involved with the cosmic secret he 384 00:18:18,049 --> 00:18:16,440 wasn't supposed to direct it or do 385 00:18:20,390 --> 00:18:18,059 anything on it until he had completed 386 00:18:22,190 --> 00:18:20,400 the graphic novel that we submitted to 387 00:18:23,650 --> 00:18:22,200 him in writing and they just totally 388 00:18:26,630 --> 00:18:23,660 ignored it and 389 00:18:29,470 --> 00:18:26,640 went and hijacked the entire story 390 00:18:33,110 --> 00:18:29,480 didn't stick to my outline 391 00:18:36,049 --> 00:18:33,120 and created something that I was 392 00:18:38,150 --> 00:18:36,059 extremely unhappy with okay quality wise 393 00:18:41,690 --> 00:18:38,160 and content-wise now the cosmic secret 394 00:18:42,950 --> 00:18:41,700 when did you stop selling that 395 00:18:44,570 --> 00:18:42,960 what do you mean 396 00:18:47,990 --> 00:18:44,580 when did you stop selling that because 397 00:18:49,310 --> 00:18:48,000 it's for free right now right oh it's uh 398 00:18:52,490 --> 00:18:49,320 uh 399 00:18:55,610 --> 00:18:52,500 earning like a little bit of Revenue off 400 00:18:59,510 --> 00:18:55,620 of advertisings on YouTube but it's 401 00:19:01,490 --> 00:18:59,520 still being sold like on iTunes and 402 00:19:03,049 --> 00:19:01,500 Amazon and that sort of thing okay so 403 00:19:05,210 --> 00:19:03,059 how much revenue do you get per month 404 00:19:07,549 --> 00:19:05,220 approximately on the cosmic secret I 405 00:19:08,870 --> 00:19:07,559 don't know uh they're both come in 406 00:19:12,710 --> 00:19:08,880 together 407 00:19:14,750 --> 00:19:12,720 to wear uh to that to the uh Bank to the 408 00:19:17,090 --> 00:19:14,760 same bank account there it's all sent as 409 00:19:18,590 --> 00:19:17,100 one distribution and both of the films 410 00:19:23,090 --> 00:19:18,600 are like eight to twelve Grand a month 411 00:19:27,789 --> 00:19:25,070 your advertising Revenue comes through 412 00:19:33,250 --> 00:19:27,799 the same deposit 413 00:19:38,029 --> 00:19:36,289 accountant it's not different deposits 414 00:19:39,289 --> 00:19:38,039 each month 415 00:19:41,270 --> 00:19:39,299 I don't still don't understand the 416 00:19:46,310 --> 00:19:41,280 question correct when you get ad revenue 417 00:19:47,630 --> 00:19:46,320 from YouTube oh that is all a part of 418 00:19:50,990 --> 00:19:47,640 that's all part of that same 419 00:19:52,250 --> 00:19:51,000 distribution okay 420 00:20:00,049 --> 00:19:52,260 I'm gonna have to use the restroom again 421 00:20:09,010 --> 00:20:02,390 okay and that's your GES account those 422 00:20:15,490 --> 00:20:11,770 and the the percentages 423 00:20:18,350 --> 00:20:15,500 uh of what people are owed 424 00:20:21,770 --> 00:20:18,360 those are memorialized in emails back 425 00:20:29,150 --> 00:20:25,130 um the percentages people are owed from 426 00:20:30,529 --> 00:20:29,160 from like Cosmic uh the percentages you 427 00:20:33,409 --> 00:20:30,539 were talking about earlier yes okay 428 00:20:35,390 --> 00:20:33,419 thank you uh I I'm sure those went 429 00:20:37,490 --> 00:20:35,400 around an email at some point that they 430 00:20:39,830 --> 00:20:37,500 had to have 431 00:20:57,430 --> 00:20:39,840 I need to go to the restroom okay we 432 00:21:03,890 --> 00:21:01,970 back on the record at 3 28. 433 00:21:08,090 --> 00:21:03,900 do you have anything to change uh from 434 00:21:12,890 --> 00:21:09,169 um I want to make sure I'm understanding 435 00:21:13,490 --> 00:21:12,900 everything the funds that 436 00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:13,500 um 437 00:21:19,789 --> 00:21:17,760 are for the SBA entertainment actions 438 00:21:21,650 --> 00:21:19,799 they're right now being paid into the 439 00:21:25,010 --> 00:21:21,660 GES 440 00:21:26,930 --> 00:21:25,020 right yes 441 00:21:29,870 --> 00:21:26,940 okay 442 00:21:33,529 --> 00:21:29,880 and so both the above Majestic and 443 00:21:37,130 --> 00:21:33,539 Cosmic secret proceeds are going into a 444 00:21:38,990 --> 00:21:37,140 GES Wells Fargo account that's one 445 00:21:45,169 --> 00:21:39,000 deposit 446 00:21:47,390 --> 00:21:45,179 going into an SBA bank account 447 00:21:50,630 --> 00:21:47,400 I don't have an SBA company anymore I 448 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:55,970 when did you dissolve that company 449 00:22:01,010 --> 00:21:58,610 I and 450 00:22:02,029 --> 00:22:01,020 the last two years 451 00:22:05,630 --> 00:22:02,039 okay 452 00:22:07,549 --> 00:22:05,640 and I think the SBA entertainment LLC 453 00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:07,559 was set up 454 00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:15,230 like you signed it 455 00:22:19,490 --> 00:22:17,280 I'm sorry you signed it and Incorporated 456 00:22:22,010 --> 00:22:19,500 it right Incorporated it 457 00:22:24,169 --> 00:22:22,020 I can't remember which ones there were 458 00:22:26,510 --> 00:22:24,179 there were so many that came in and out 459 00:22:28,970 --> 00:22:26,520 I would need to see the 460 00:22:32,090 --> 00:22:28,980 paper before I could 461 00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:32,100 answer it definitively so isn't SBA 462 00:22:36,590 --> 00:22:35,039 entertainment LLC the one that was the 463 00:22:43,029 --> 00:22:36,600 supposed to be receiving the 464 00:22:48,289 --> 00:22:44,930 Leon's 465 00:22:51,169 --> 00:22:48,299 company it was SBA media I thought it 466 00:22:53,570 --> 00:22:51,179 could be SBA entertainment there was SBA 467 00:23:00,770 --> 00:22:53,580 publishing there was just Roger was just 468 00:23:07,850 --> 00:23:02,930 and you you sent emails to Roger tell 469 00:23:11,510 --> 00:23:09,590 no have you seen any text messages 470 00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:11,520 telling Roger to stop creating so many 471 00:23:15,770 --> 00:23:14,400 companies no I don't remember I just 472 00:23:17,810 --> 00:23:15,780 would have to look through I don't 473 00:23:19,730 --> 00:23:17,820 remember but you know I didn't send him 474 00:23:22,250 --> 00:23:19,740 a text telling him to create companies a 475 00:23:24,710 --> 00:23:22,260 bunch of companies well when you you 476 00:23:26,990 --> 00:23:24,720 kept getting documents to create new 477 00:23:29,090 --> 00:23:27,000 companies did you ever send a response 478 00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:29,100 back and say stop I would have to look 479 00:23:32,450 --> 00:23:30,720 at the documents I mean at the 480 00:23:34,370 --> 00:23:32,460 documentation to see if I even received 481 00:23:35,930 --> 00:23:34,380 documents 482 00:23:38,450 --> 00:23:35,940 um a lot of the times it was just talk 483 00:23:41,450 --> 00:23:38,460 over a phone he'd be like oh well I 484 00:23:45,169 --> 00:23:41,460 already executed that uh entity 485 00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:45,179 uh we can no no problem we can just uh 486 00:23:49,909 --> 00:23:47,039 dissolve it if it doesn't work out you 487 00:23:52,909 --> 00:23:49,919 know it was I it wasn't us sitting here 488 00:23:54,890 --> 00:23:52,919 having a conversation always about let's 489 00:23:56,330 --> 00:23:54,900 create a company it was Roger had all 490 00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:56,340 these big ideas and he would just get 491 00:24:00,289 --> 00:23:58,559 all carried away and he would get on the 492 00:24:04,610 --> 00:24:00,299 phone with us have the diary of the 493 00:24:07,190 --> 00:24:04,620 mouth thing and then you know 494 00:24:09,289 --> 00:24:07,200 have a lot of it already in motion that 495 00:24:11,510 --> 00:24:09,299 you know of what he wanted to do that's 496 00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:11,520 I think how a number of these companies 497 00:24:16,250 --> 00:24:14,159 got started now the above Majestic and 498 00:24:18,830 --> 00:24:16,260 the cosmic secret profits for about a 499 00:24:20,990 --> 00:24:18,840 year their distributions uh every month 500 00:24:23,270 --> 00:24:21,000 and there's no complaints from anybody 501 00:24:24,890 --> 00:24:23,280 is that right 502 00:24:28,610 --> 00:24:24,900 um 503 00:24:30,490 --> 00:24:28,620 no uh there's complaints from 504 00:24:35,810 --> 00:24:30,500 uh 505 00:24:37,390 --> 00:24:35,820 gotten paid 506 00:24:42,169 --> 00:24:37,400 a number of times 507 00:24:43,850 --> 00:24:42,179 David complained with me that Leon on 508 00:24:44,890 --> 00:24:43,860 certain months had decided not to pay 509 00:24:48,350 --> 00:24:44,900 him 510 00:24:51,289 --> 00:24:48,360 that was during the first year 511 00:24:54,049 --> 00:24:51,299 oh I I believe so but uh 512 00:24:56,630 --> 00:24:54,059 yeah the uh in the beginning you know 513 00:24:59,029 --> 00:24:56,640 the uh distribution seemed to be going 514 00:25:01,730 --> 00:24:59,039 out you know you know pretty smoothly 515 00:25:03,230 --> 00:25:01,740 but then it got to where he was how many 516 00:25:06,350 --> 00:25:03,240 months did it go out pretty smoothly to 517 00:25:11,210 --> 00:25:08,990 like I don't know six or nine months 518 00:25:13,310 --> 00:25:11,220 maybe this is just completely 519 00:25:14,930 --> 00:25:13,320 I I don't know okay so six to nine 520 00:25:16,190 --> 00:25:14,940 months somewhere around there seem to be 521 00:25:17,270 --> 00:25:16,200 going out smoothly no one was 522 00:25:18,890 --> 00:25:17,280 complaining 523 00:25:20,750 --> 00:25:18,900 who is the first person to complained 524 00:25:24,409 --> 00:25:20,760 was it Brian 525 00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:24,419 uh see I I don't know when the time 526 00:25:33,230 --> 00:25:30,649 um that might have been the second film 527 00:25:35,090 --> 00:25:33,240 Cosmic secret those are kind of bleeding 528 00:25:37,669 --> 00:25:35,100 in together for me 529 00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:37,679 um that he got five percent so it would 530 00:25:44,450 --> 00:25:41,520 have been later on when that complaint 531 00:25:46,549 --> 00:25:44,460 uh was registered so for a while every 532 00:25:49,010 --> 00:25:46,559 everybody was fine they were getting 533 00:25:51,169 --> 00:25:49,020 their monies within each month right yep 534 00:25:53,330 --> 00:25:51,179 and then it started changing as the 535 00:25:55,310 --> 00:25:53,340 distributions uh started getting you 536 00:25:56,570 --> 00:25:55,320 know at first they were really large and 537 00:25:59,149 --> 00:25:56,580 then they started getting smaller and 538 00:26:00,710 --> 00:25:59,159 smaller and then uh that's when things 539 00:26:02,029 --> 00:26:00,720 started becoming more and more wonky 540 00:26:05,930 --> 00:26:02,039 about if you were going to get paid that 541 00:26:07,549 --> 00:26:05,940 month or if uh Leon decided uh you know 542 00:26:09,649 --> 00:26:07,559 Roger has a big problem he needs to get 543 00:26:12,289 --> 00:26:09,659 paid more than someone else or 544 00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:12,299 that that kind of stuff happened pretty 545 00:26:18,409 --> 00:26:15,840 constantly after the money started uh 546 00:26:20,029 --> 00:26:18,419 uh the distributions were lower okay so 547 00:26:21,710 --> 00:26:20,039 during those first six to nine months 548 00:26:22,610 --> 00:26:21,720 did you thank Leon for doing some great 549 00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:22,620 work 550 00:26:26,930 --> 00:26:24,000 well 551 00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:26,940 yeah Leon came in he had me completely 552 00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:29,760 convinced that he was the biggest thing 553 00:26:34,610 --> 00:26:31,919 from that ever hit Hollywood and that he 554 00:26:37,490 --> 00:26:34,620 was yeah I was still under as long as I 555 00:26:40,370 --> 00:26:37,500 was under the delusion yeah I was I was 556 00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:40,380 thanking him and as red flags were 557 00:26:48,529 --> 00:26:43,200 popping up those accolades went down as 558 00:26:53,930 --> 00:26:51,350 became a lot of arguing of me you know 559 00:26:56,350 --> 00:26:53,940 saying hey this is my company this is my 560 00:26:59,029 --> 00:26:56,360 IP you all agreed to do it this way 561 00:27:00,470 --> 00:26:59,039 you're you're not doing it you and Roger 562 00:27:02,450 --> 00:27:00,480 were conspiring and doing all this other 563 00:27:05,630 --> 00:27:02,460 stuff and that's what it all became 564 00:27:07,610 --> 00:27:05,640 about now in February of 2020 Liz Laurie 565 00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:07,620 on your behalf wrote to Kennedy and 566 00:27:11,330 --> 00:27:09,360 demanded that Kennedy sent all the 567 00:27:13,370 --> 00:27:11,340 incoming monies from 568 00:27:15,769 --> 00:27:13,380 to you right 569 00:27:18,169 --> 00:27:15,779 I don't think so no to send all the 570 00:27:21,169 --> 00:27:18,179 money to me yes 571 00:27:24,769 --> 00:27:21,179 I don't in February of 2020 I don't I 572 00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:24,779 don't remember her that I had never 573 00:27:28,430 --> 00:27:26,159 I didn't talk with I don't remember 574 00:27:30,890 --> 00:27:28,440 talking with anyone about having the 575 00:27:33,769 --> 00:27:30,900 money sent to me in my account until 576 00:27:37,010 --> 00:27:33,779 after uh we had tried for about a year 577 00:27:39,049 --> 00:27:37,020 to get uh Leon and Roger and all of them 578 00:27:43,130 --> 00:27:39,059 to come to the table and after that year 579 00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:43,140 when if if they in your mind weren't 580 00:27:47,210 --> 00:27:45,840 doing what they wanted you to if they 581 00:27:49,970 --> 00:27:47,220 weren't doing what you wanted them to do 582 00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:49,980 what did you have done next 583 00:27:52,610 --> 00:27:51,120 um it wasn't just that they weren't 584 00:27:54,350 --> 00:27:52,620 doing what I wanted them to do they 585 00:27:57,529 --> 00:27:54,360 weren't handling the distributions 586 00:28:01,730 --> 00:27:57,539 properly they weren't giving the 587 00:28:04,010 --> 00:28:01,740 everyone access to the numbers like uh 588 00:28:06,230 --> 00:28:04,020 was promised there wasn't an accountant 589 00:28:08,149 --> 00:28:06,240 like was promised people were getting 590 00:28:10,970 --> 00:28:08,159 more and more concerned all right is 591 00:28:13,789 --> 00:28:10,980 there an accountant now for me for the 592 00:28:16,250 --> 00:28:13,799 cosmic secret and above yes who is that 593 00:28:17,690 --> 00:28:16,260 accountant uh you asked me that earlier 594 00:28:20,570 --> 00:28:17,700 it's that's why you're going to kill in 595 00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:20,580 later yeah okay 596 00:28:24,830 --> 00:28:22,080 and you're saying that account is 597 00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:24,840 holding back the percentages uh for 598 00:28:28,130 --> 00:28:25,919 anybody who's not getting their 599 00:28:30,230 --> 00:28:28,140 percentages from above Majestic and 600 00:28:32,029 --> 00:28:30,240 Cosmic secret those monies are still 601 00:28:34,010 --> 00:28:32,039 sitting in an account correct 602 00:28:36,649 --> 00:28:34,020 well some of the money has been used 603 00:28:39,769 --> 00:28:36,659 after well 604 00:28:41,870 --> 00:28:39,779 um after your clients came out and 605 00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:41,880 destroyed all ability to make Revenue 606 00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:43,200 you took the money out of the account 607 00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:45,360 some of the money yes why would you take 608 00:28:49,130 --> 00:28:47,039 the money out of their account if that's 609 00:28:51,649 --> 00:28:49,140 a disputed out of his account out of 610 00:28:54,409 --> 00:28:51,659 that account that that account where the 611 00:28:56,750 --> 00:28:54,419 proceeds from above Majestic and Cosmic 612 00:28:59,149 --> 00:28:56,760 secret are if those are disputed funds 613 00:29:02,510 --> 00:28:59,159 they're just as disputed as the DVD 614 00:29:03,850 --> 00:29:02,520 funds are they not and uh I'm the only 615 00:29:08,330 --> 00:29:03,860 one that's 616 00:29:11,210 --> 00:29:08,340 being open with these uh other 617 00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:11,220 shareholders we've 618 00:29:14,990 --> 00:29:13,919 gave them an email saying that you know 619 00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:15,000 all of this is going to be figured out 620 00:29:19,250 --> 00:29:18,000 by forensic accountants it is my opinion 621 00:29:22,930 --> 00:29:19,260 that we're going to be able to buy out 622 00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:22,940 most of the people if not all of them 623 00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:28,320 and I have some uh I will probably have 624 00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:31,679 some very significant funds coming by 625 00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:33,240 the end of this year or the beginning of 626 00:29:37,669 --> 00:29:35,039 next year but I'm just going to buy 627 00:29:40,190 --> 00:29:37,679 everyone out as of right now you have 628 00:29:42,409 --> 00:29:40,200 used my clients funds or proceeds from 629 00:29:43,970 --> 00:29:42,419 above Majestic and the cosmic secret and 630 00:29:49,970 --> 00:29:43,980 done something with them correct just as 631 00:29:53,630 --> 00:29:51,289 thank you 632 00:29:55,669 --> 00:29:53,640 how much in funds from above Majestic 633 00:29:57,889 --> 00:29:55,679 and Cosmic secret have you taken from my 634 00:30:00,649 --> 00:29:57,899 clients portions I have no idea I'll 635 00:30:02,330 --> 00:30:00,659 have to we'll have to provide that 636 00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:02,340 okay if I left the blank here you can 637 00:30:08,990 --> 00:30:05,520 provide that I believe so okay 638 00:30:14,510 --> 00:30:09,000 um how about uh 639 00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:16,010 you're a 16 and a half percent 640 00:30:21,230 --> 00:30:18,240 participant in Cosmic secret is that 641 00:30:25,789 --> 00:30:23,810 a 16 and a half participant what does 642 00:30:27,649 --> 00:30:25,799 that mean in in the cosmic secret you 643 00:30:29,690 --> 00:30:27,659 have 16 and a half percentage points of 644 00:30:31,850 --> 00:30:29,700 the profits correct 645 00:30:33,529 --> 00:30:31,860 I don't think that's correct what what 646 00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:33,539 percentage do you believe is correct I 647 00:30:38,389 --> 00:30:36,240 thought they were both in the like 25 648 00:30:40,450 --> 00:30:38,399 okay my understanding is above Majestic 649 00:30:43,610 --> 00:30:40,460 is 20 not 25. 650 00:30:47,210 --> 00:30:43,620 earlier you said 25 but my Doctrine 651 00:30:49,389 --> 00:30:47,220 showed 20. what document uh 652 00:30:53,210 --> 00:30:49,399 what document do you believe 653 00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:53,220 specifically would show that it's 20 654 00:31:04,909 --> 00:31:02,029 the same document we were discussing 655 00:31:12,769 --> 00:31:10,010 but I don't remember 15 or 16 percent uh 656 00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:12,779 percentage on 657 00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:19,370 seemed like it was higher to me okay and 658 00:31:22,370 --> 00:31:21,120 that would be memorialized in a document 659 00:31:23,289 --> 00:31:22,380 that you don't know the title of the 660 00:31:26,029 --> 00:31:23,299 document 661 00:31:27,470 --> 00:31:26,039 it wouldn't what does it Exchange in 662 00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:27,480 emails 663 00:31:32,269 --> 00:31:30,000 yeah it would have most likely been in 664 00:31:33,889 --> 00:31:32,279 emails too okay and in Cosmic secret you 665 00:31:37,070 --> 00:31:33,899 had the same percentage ownership that 666 00:31:39,470 --> 00:31:37,080 David Wilcock had correct I think that 667 00:31:41,930 --> 00:31:39,480 sounds familiar correct and Roger 668 00:31:43,070 --> 00:31:41,940 Richards had slightly less than you I 669 00:31:45,470 --> 00:31:43,080 believe so 670 00:31:46,730 --> 00:31:45,480 okay he wasn't supposed to be involved 671 00:31:48,769 --> 00:31:46,740 at all 672 00:31:50,690 --> 00:31:48,779 but somehow he became involved yeah 673 00:31:52,130 --> 00:31:50,700 without Kennedy shoved him down my 674 00:31:54,049 --> 00:31:52,140 throat he was supposed to do the graphic 675 00:31:56,930 --> 00:31:54,059 novel first and that was a part of the 676 00:31:59,149 --> 00:31:56,940 agreement between me and Leon and Leon 677 00:32:01,370 --> 00:31:59,159 made an executive decision as he always 678 00:32:02,930 --> 00:32:01,380 did to tell Corey one thing and do 679 00:32:07,490 --> 00:32:02,940 another 680 00:32:10,789 --> 00:32:07,500 and I didn't know Roger was going to be 681 00:32:12,769 --> 00:32:10,799 directing it until like the very end and 682 00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:12,779 I asked the person that was supposed to 683 00:32:16,250 --> 00:32:14,640 be director 684 00:32:17,510 --> 00:32:16,260 and he didn't even know what happened he 685 00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:17,520 said they just totally took it and 686 00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:19,919 didn't didn't really say any giving 687 00:32:25,730 --> 00:32:22,799 really any good reason why did you 688 00:32:30,649 --> 00:32:25,740 choose to put Cosmic secret on YouTube 689 00:32:32,930 --> 00:32:30,659 for free I didn't that was uh 690 00:32:35,330 --> 00:32:32,940 did it it's not free they're earning 691 00:32:36,889 --> 00:32:35,340 money off of advertising right but they 692 00:32:38,930 --> 00:32:36,899 but no one has to pay to watch it other 693 00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:38,940 than watching an ad right 694 00:32:43,909 --> 00:32:41,039 but no more licensing deals can be done 695 00:32:45,529 --> 00:32:43,919 because it's out there and 696 00:32:47,389 --> 00:32:45,539 for free on using YouTube That's not 697 00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:47,399 necessarily true so you believe you 698 00:32:49,850 --> 00:32:48,480 still have a chance to do a future 699 00:32:53,330 --> 00:32:49,860 licensing deal 700 00:32:56,750 --> 00:32:53,340 I would I wouldn't say why not okay the 701 00:32:57,889 --> 00:32:56,760 being put out there free was done by 702 00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:57,899 um 703 00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:00,720 and if they damage the property by 704 00:33:05,630 --> 00:33:02,640 making it not marketable like that then 705 00:33:08,269 --> 00:33:05,640 that would be a big problem 706 00:33:10,370 --> 00:33:08,279 okay and right now you're saying 707 00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:10,380 the one that put that on on YouTube 708 00:33:14,330 --> 00:33:12,000 right correct 709 00:33:16,190 --> 00:33:14,340 did they notify you in writing that they 710 00:33:18,830 --> 00:33:16,200 were doing that yes did you get the 711 00:33:23,090 --> 00:33:18,840 permission of the other uh participants 712 00:33:24,889 --> 00:33:23,100 to do that it was not a 713 00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:24,899 they weren't asking me for my permission 714 00:33:29,389 --> 00:33:27,360 who was in 1991. they just told me that 715 00:33:31,630 --> 00:33:29,399 they informed me yeah did you inform the 716 00:33:36,110 --> 00:33:31,640 others that that's what I wanted to do 717 00:33:37,789 --> 00:33:36,120 that was done after all of the lawsuits 718 00:33:39,830 --> 00:33:37,799 and all of that began so you don't 719 00:33:42,110 --> 00:33:39,840 believe that you had any duty to notify 720 00:33:43,909 --> 00:33:42,120 the others as far as what communicating 721 00:33:46,370 --> 00:33:43,919 to you they were talking with 722 00:33:48,950 --> 00:33:46,380 on a daily basis almost who's they were 723 00:33:52,009 --> 00:33:48,960 talking Roger and Leon how did you know 724 00:33:55,549 --> 00:33:52,019 that they were talking on a daily basis 725 00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:55,559 the executive that was the connection uh 726 00:34:01,549 --> 00:33:59,039 all of our connection uh told me on a 727 00:34:03,590 --> 00:34:01,559 number of occasions that uh Leon calls 728 00:34:07,430 --> 00:34:03,600 calls him almost Non-Stop 729 00:34:09,710 --> 00:34:07,440 aren't you selling DVDs right now no 730 00:34:11,089 --> 00:34:09,720 hasn't the DVD sales site been shut down 731 00:34:13,210 --> 00:34:11,099 for over two years 732 00:34:16,490 --> 00:34:13,220 there are more what do you mean more 733 00:34:20,690 --> 00:34:16,500 recently I found another DVD site 734 00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:20,700 selling above Majestic and the cosmic 735 00:34:26,450 --> 00:34:24,240 secret too I believe we're right now 736 00:34:28,669 --> 00:34:26,460 trying to get information to see who set 737 00:34:30,470 --> 00:34:28,679 that up and where the money's going for 738 00:34:33,409 --> 00:34:30,480 that 739 00:34:35,409 --> 00:34:33,419 um to see you know if it 740 00:34:37,550 --> 00:34:35,419 see if we can get a 741 00:34:38,990 --> 00:34:37,560 contracts we want to see whose 742 00:34:40,909 --> 00:34:39,000 signatures are on them 743 00:34:43,010 --> 00:34:40,919 I know Roger Richards has used my 744 00:34:45,109 --> 00:34:43,020 signature quite a bit from a signature 745 00:34:47,629 --> 00:34:45,119 file so we're curious to see if my 746 00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:47,639 signature has been used since I stopped 747 00:34:52,669 --> 00:34:50,399 working with him but uh yeah it's still 748 00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:52,679 being sold on DVDs okay but you're not 749 00:34:58,190 --> 00:34:55,440 selling via DVDs no okay 750 00:35:01,430 --> 00:34:58,200 I've never sold DVDs but you just had 751 00:35:03,530 --> 00:35:01,440 you agreed to or allowed or or didn't 752 00:35:05,329 --> 00:35:03,540 object to when you said they're gonna 753 00:35:07,670 --> 00:35:05,339 put it up on YouTube I couldn't object 754 00:35:09,890 --> 00:35:07,680 it's part of the contract okay that Leon 755 00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:09,900 created so that goes back to Leon and so 756 00:35:14,210 --> 00:35:12,000 you have a contract with you're saying 757 00:35:15,410 --> 00:35:14,220 that allows put it up on YouTube for 758 00:35:17,810 --> 00:35:15,420 free 759 00:35:22,130 --> 00:35:17,820 they monetized it through the 760 00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:22,140 advertising but yes the contract that we 761 00:35:27,710 --> 00:35:24,000 have with 762 00:35:50,870 --> 00:35:27,720 gave them the scope to do that type of 763 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:56,510 foreign 764 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,430 why did you need a loan in 2018 765 00:36:04,510 --> 00:36:03,050 you're gonna have to be specific in 766 00:36:07,970 --> 00:36:04,520 December of 2018 767 00:36:10,730 --> 00:36:07,980 uh you mentioned to Kennedy that you 768 00:36:15,950 --> 00:36:12,589 I can't recall 769 00:36:16,970 --> 00:36:15,960 uh do you remember a person by the name 770 00:36:18,890 --> 00:36:16,980 of 771 00:36:22,010 --> 00:36:18,900 yes that's the person who I mentioned 772 00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:22,020 earlier right and he gave you a 75 000 773 00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:24,240 donation 774 00:36:30,349 --> 00:36:28,190 25 775 00:36:33,710 --> 00:36:30,359 000 donation do you remember receiving 776 00:36:37,849 --> 00:36:33,720 any money from at all directly uh he 777 00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:37,859 helped pay for our kids school 778 00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:40,560 but I don't remember receiving a lump 779 00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:42,480 sum directly from him I know he made a 780 00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:44,640 loan to Leon for a certain amount of 781 00:36:48,890 --> 00:36:47,040 money that Leon was responsible for and 782 00:36:50,630 --> 00:36:48,900 in that deal he ended up getting five 783 00:36:53,150 --> 00:36:50,640 percent of one of the films 784 00:36:54,410 --> 00:36:53,160 how much was that for the five percent 785 00:36:56,089 --> 00:36:54,420 what do you mean how much was that for 786 00:36:59,270 --> 00:36:56,099 how much did he pay to get the five 787 00:37:01,849 --> 00:36:59,280 percent I don't know approximately 788 00:37:04,490 --> 00:37:01,859 I don't know between 50 and 70 grand I 789 00:37:07,010 --> 00:37:04,500 guess whatever Leon agreed to in that 790 00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:07,020 isn't it true that within a few months 791 00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:09,359 after him donating the 50 to 70 grand 792 00:37:14,210 --> 00:37:11,040 you went back and asked him for another 793 00:37:21,710 --> 00:37:19,550 I don't recall that you don't recall yes 794 00:37:23,829 --> 00:37:21,720 I don't recall ever asking for large 795 00:37:26,450 --> 00:37:23,839 sums of money other than to help me with 796 00:37:28,490 --> 00:37:26,460 my kids schooling why did you need money 797 00:37:32,089 --> 00:37:28,500 for your kids school because at the time 798 00:37:35,450 --> 00:37:32,099 we were it was after we Gaia was my main 799 00:37:37,010 --> 00:37:35,460 income and Gaia had fired me and the 800 00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:37,020 only income I really had at the time was 801 00:37:42,430 --> 00:37:39,599 from doing events and trying to get 802 00:37:46,130 --> 00:37:42,440 money coming in from these 803 00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:46,140 documentaries which you know by the time 804 00:37:51,349 --> 00:37:47,520 that money from the documentaries came 805 00:37:54,170 --> 00:37:51,359 in we were we had been in famine mode 806 00:37:57,470 --> 00:37:54,180 okay how much while everyone was uh 807 00:38:01,609 --> 00:37:57,480 Roger was too Roger was uh trying to 808 00:38:04,970 --> 00:38:01,619 make payments to his uh baby mama you 809 00:38:07,250 --> 00:38:04,980 know and Roger I mean Leon was helping 810 00:38:09,230 --> 00:38:07,260 with that quite a bit 811 00:38:10,430 --> 00:38:09,240 have you produced a copy that's your 812 00:38:11,870 --> 00:38:10,440 version 813 00:38:14,089 --> 00:38:11,880 contract 814 00:38:16,130 --> 00:38:14,099 to your attorney 815 00:38:25,910 --> 00:38:16,140 I turned over everything I had I don't 816 00:38:32,150 --> 00:38:29,270 you don't remember asking uh 817 00:38:34,430 --> 00:38:32,160 for a hundred thousand dollars within 60 818 00:38:36,410 --> 00:38:34,440 days of him honing up seventy five 819 00:38:38,750 --> 00:38:36,420 thousand dollars in 2018. if you have 820 00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:38,760 show me the document because I don't uh 821 00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:41,280 you don't remember I I'm not remembering 822 00:38:47,870 --> 00:38:42,960 now okay how much money did you need 823 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:53,089 see my sons 824 00:38:56,990 --> 00:38:55,030 I think my daughters was like 825 00:39:08,690 --> 00:38:57,000 for college 826 00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:11,150 okay and you paid that in full for that 827 00:39:14,750 --> 00:39:13,200 school year because you got money from 828 00:39:17,930 --> 00:39:14,760 yes 829 00:39:20,210 --> 00:39:17,940 send testimony and then we paid schools 830 00:39:22,310 --> 00:39:20,220 and you communicated that in writing 831 00:39:24,770 --> 00:39:22,320 text or an email that's what you're 832 00:39:27,230 --> 00:39:24,780 using the money for 833 00:39:30,290 --> 00:39:27,240 um well yeah yeah 834 00:39:32,870 --> 00:39:30,300 there was multiple phone calls multiple 835 00:39:38,690 --> 00:39:32,880 texts multiple emails during that time 836 00:39:41,390 --> 00:39:39,770 I'm gonna have to go to the restroom 837 00:39:44,089 --> 00:39:41,400 again 838 00:40:01,210 --> 00:39:44,099 okay go off the Record going off the 839 00:40:07,370 --> 00:40:05,690 back on the record at 3 49. 840 00:40:16,490 --> 00:40:07,380 anything Mr Good you want to change from 841 00:40:22,190 --> 00:40:19,609 did you ever repay 842 00:40:25,130 --> 00:40:22,200 we pay him for what for the monies he he 843 00:40:27,349 --> 00:40:25,140 contributed for my uh school he had 844 00:40:30,770 --> 00:40:27,359 school yes no it was a gift 845 00:40:34,670 --> 00:40:32,050 okay 846 00:40:37,490 --> 00:40:34,680 you mentioned there's more monies that 847 00:40:39,050 --> 00:40:37,500 were given later on was that as a loan 848 00:40:42,530 --> 00:40:39,060 I mentioned there was more money is 849 00:40:46,010 --> 00:40:44,270 were there were there let me ask let me 850 00:40:49,370 --> 00:40:46,020 rephrase it were there any more monies 851 00:40:52,010 --> 00:40:49,380 after the initial uh 852 00:40:54,109 --> 00:40:52,020 one t to 30 for one of your kids 40 for 853 00:40:58,430 --> 00:40:54,119 another one of your children he paid for 854 00:41:08,030 --> 00:40:58,440 my school for my kids school for 855 00:41:13,609 --> 00:41:11,510 okay and also um 856 00:41:17,150 --> 00:41:13,619 didn't Kennedy sign a personal note 857 00:41:19,250 --> 00:41:17,160 guaranteeing some of these monies no no 858 00:41:21,050 --> 00:41:19,260 not those Monies 859 00:41:23,210 --> 00:41:21,060 were there other monies that Kennedy 860 00:41:26,410 --> 00:41:23,220 guaranteed yeah uh 861 00:41:30,050 --> 00:41:26,420 he went and borrowed money from uh BART 862 00:41:33,410 --> 00:41:30,060 to be able to pay Roger and I 863 00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:33,420 um uh 864 00:41:38,569 --> 00:41:35,760 payroll or something it was money that 865 00:41:40,970 --> 00:41:38,579 he was using to pay Roger and I what was 866 00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:40,980 why did you need money I can't remember 867 00:41:45,710 --> 00:41:43,200 it right now I mean it will be in the 868 00:41:47,630 --> 00:41:45,720 emails obviously so above and beyond the 869 00:41:49,730 --> 00:41:47,640 50 to 60 that we've spoken about earlier 870 00:41:52,849 --> 00:41:49,740 that was gifted to you but 871 00:41:56,030 --> 00:41:52,859 you're saying that Kennedy signed a loan 872 00:41:59,630 --> 00:41:56,040 for monies that were intended to fund 873 00:42:02,329 --> 00:41:59,640 you and Roger and himself and Ken and 874 00:42:04,550 --> 00:42:02,339 Roger uh Leon himself those that those 875 00:42:05,990 --> 00:42:04,560 monies were split and spent between the 876 00:42:07,609 --> 00:42:06,000 three of us 877 00:42:10,370 --> 00:42:07,619 foreign 878 00:42:13,069 --> 00:42:10,380 okay and as far as and you're accusing 879 00:42:14,630 --> 00:42:13,079 my clients of embezzling right these 880 00:42:15,710 --> 00:42:14,640 funds 881 00:42:17,450 --> 00:42:15,720 of 882 00:42:19,970 --> 00:42:17,460 I've been embezzling funds from you 883 00:42:22,069 --> 00:42:19,980 right yes and yet my client was 884 00:42:24,109 --> 00:42:22,079 personally guaranteeing 885 00:42:27,290 --> 00:42:24,119 on loans for the business to make sure 886 00:42:31,370 --> 00:42:27,300 you got monthly payroll correct 887 00:42:34,370 --> 00:42:32,510 you understand why that sounds 888 00:42:35,810 --> 00:42:34,380 ridiculous right 889 00:42:38,510 --> 00:42:35,820 everything was done completely 890 00:42:40,970 --> 00:42:38,520 ridiculous it was on a ridiculous time 891 00:42:42,829 --> 00:42:40,980 because why would someone embezzle if 892 00:42:45,170 --> 00:42:42,839 they're personally guaranteeing the 893 00:42:47,030 --> 00:42:45,180 business that's borrowing money to pay 894 00:42:49,069 --> 00:42:47,040 you your payroll 895 00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:49,079 you understand my concern I understand 896 00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:50,880 you're concerning that one situation but 897 00:42:54,530 --> 00:42:52,560 who knows how a criminal's mind thinks 898 00:42:56,870 --> 00:42:54,540 they may hold one thing in front of you 899 00:42:58,609 --> 00:42:56,880 to keep your attention and then do you 900 00:43:00,050 --> 00:42:58,619 know things in the background and that's 901 00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:00,060 what was occurring because of all the 902 00:43:07,190 --> 00:43:04,560 lies and refusal to give us access to 903 00:43:10,010 --> 00:43:07,200 the to the accounts and what was being 904 00:43:11,390 --> 00:43:10,020 spent where the money was going uh who 905 00:43:12,290 --> 00:43:11,400 was being distributed to because people 906 00:43:15,050 --> 00:43:12,300 were saying they weren't being 907 00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:15,060 distributed to so where's the money 908 00:43:18,890 --> 00:43:17,040 going did you ever personally guarantee 909 00:43:21,950 --> 00:43:18,900 any funds that went through the business 910 00:43:23,870 --> 00:43:21,960 to pay out for my clients 911 00:43:25,250 --> 00:43:23,880 that went through the business correct 912 00:43:31,010 --> 00:43:25,260 and it threw the business accounts to 913 00:43:33,890 --> 00:43:32,210 Roger 914 00:43:37,370 --> 00:43:33,900 you personally guaranteed monies that 915 00:43:39,650 --> 00:43:37,380 were no I mean I I that 916 00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:39,660 the funds that came out of the business 917 00:43:45,050 --> 00:43:42,960 Which business any of your entities to 918 00:43:48,109 --> 00:43:45,060 pay to pay any of my clients oh well 919 00:43:51,050 --> 00:43:48,119 yeah I paid well Roger a salary 920 00:43:53,390 --> 00:43:51,060 out of your personal monies yes out of 921 00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:53,400 our company monies that's that's not 922 00:43:57,470 --> 00:43:54,960 what I'm asking I'm asking did you ever 923 00:44:01,130 --> 00:43:57,480 personally guarantee 924 00:44:03,650 --> 00:44:01,140 any monies that were borrowed to pay for 925 00:44:07,730 --> 00:44:03,660 anyone one of my clients salaries well 926 00:44:08,750 --> 00:44:07,740 this was a yes or no no okay but let me 927 00:44:11,089 --> 00:44:08,760 ask my next question I don't have 928 00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:11,099 another question time frame matters okay 929 00:44:16,430 --> 00:44:13,680 at any time no time frame of when he did 930 00:44:19,010 --> 00:44:16,440 what matters at any point in time did 931 00:44:21,170 --> 00:44:19,020 you ever sign a personal guarantee where 932 00:44:24,069 --> 00:44:21,180 you're personally liable for money is 933 00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:24,079 used to pay one of my three clients no 934 00:44:27,530 --> 00:44:26,160 did you ever take money out of your 935 00:44:30,589 --> 00:44:27,540 personal bank account 936 00:44:32,270 --> 00:44:30,599 and pay one of my three clients monies I 937 00:44:34,910 --> 00:44:32,280 had helped Roger out with money a number 938 00:44:37,490 --> 00:44:34,920 of times out of my personal accounts 939 00:44:39,650 --> 00:44:37,500 how many times 940 00:44:42,470 --> 00:44:39,660 a number of times it was Cash 941 00:44:45,710 --> 00:44:42,480 what's the approximate dollar amount 942 00:44:47,690 --> 00:44:45,720 three 500 bucks at a time 943 00:44:49,190 --> 00:44:47,700 so fifteen hundred dollars 944 00:44:51,230 --> 00:44:49,200 I don't know 945 00:44:53,089 --> 00:44:51,240 did you ever repay that fifty thousand 946 00:44:56,030 --> 00:44:53,099 dollar loan that my client personally 947 00:44:57,170 --> 00:44:56,040 guaranteed I wasn't supposed to pay it 948 00:45:00,770 --> 00:44:57,180 back 949 00:45:02,809 --> 00:45:00,780 who was all of us did SBA did the monies 950 00:45:04,490 --> 00:45:02,819 that you took out of SBA did you use any 951 00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:04,500 of those to repay that fifty thousand 952 00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:08,160 dollar loan no why not well the loan was 953 00:45:14,030 --> 00:45:11,280 Leon's for for use for what for SBA 954 00:45:15,710 --> 00:45:14,040 purposes to pay your salary and to pay 955 00:45:18,230 --> 00:45:15,720 Roger's salary and his own so it was 956 00:45:19,250 --> 00:45:18,240 used to pay your salary and so should 957 00:45:21,290 --> 00:45:19,260 I'm supposed to pay it all back 958 00:45:23,329 --> 00:45:21,300 shouldn't you pay some of it back well 959 00:45:24,890 --> 00:45:23,339 yeah but but you didn't pay any back no 960 00:45:26,270 --> 00:45:24,900 but I would be sure you took some of it 961 00:45:27,530 --> 00:45:26,280 but you never paid any of it back I 962 00:45:28,730 --> 00:45:27,540 don't even know how much I'm supposed to 963 00:45:30,410 --> 00:45:28,740 pay back I don't know how much money 964 00:45:32,270 --> 00:45:30,420 because no one ever gave me a breakdown 965 00:45:33,950 --> 00:45:32,280 how about paying a portion back that you 966 00:45:35,450 --> 00:45:33,960 got 967 00:45:36,890 --> 00:45:35,460 you don't need to break down on money 968 00:45:38,210 --> 00:45:36,900 you received do you I don't know what 969 00:45:39,589 --> 00:45:38,220 money came from where you don't know 970 00:45:41,329 --> 00:45:39,599 what money you received when they 971 00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:41,339 borrowed money to pay your salary we 972 00:45:45,349 --> 00:45:43,200 didn't get it all at once I don't 973 00:45:47,690 --> 00:45:45,359 believe well at that one time didn't you 974 00:45:49,490 --> 00:45:47,700 know how much money you received at that 975 00:45:51,530 --> 00:45:49,500 one time yeah when you said we did it 976 00:45:53,690 --> 00:45:51,540 all at once when Leon Kennedy signed a 977 00:45:55,490 --> 00:45:53,700 personal guarantee to make sure that you 978 00:45:57,410 --> 00:45:55,500 and Richards got paid 979 00:45:59,390 --> 00:45:57,420 did you not know how much money you got 980 00:46:01,970 --> 00:45:59,400 out of that fifty thousand dollars 981 00:46:03,650 --> 00:46:01,980 I'm sure I did at the time well then why 982 00:46:05,870 --> 00:46:03,660 don't you pay those back out of the SBA 983 00:46:07,970 --> 00:46:05,880 monies that you had why hasn't Roger or 984 00:46:09,470 --> 00:46:07,980 Leon answer my question 985 00:46:11,930 --> 00:46:09,480 you haven't paid any of those monies 986 00:46:14,210 --> 00:46:11,940 back no but you're yeah you're yeah 987 00:46:16,250 --> 00:46:14,220 Roger and Leon are not taking SBA monies 988 00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:16,260 you have control over those monies this 989 00:46:20,690 --> 00:46:18,720 is where the timing goes in do they have 990 00:46:22,910 --> 00:46:20,700 control of their monies or do you they 991 00:46:25,849 --> 00:46:22,920 had control of the money for about two 992 00:46:27,530 --> 00:46:25,859 years after a year and a half after the 993 00:46:29,690 --> 00:46:27,540 loan they could have paid back the loan 994 00:46:31,010 --> 00:46:29,700 during the whole time they chose not to 995 00:46:33,589 --> 00:46:31,020 pay 996 00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:33,599 he's going to testify for us you can ask 997 00:46:38,210 --> 00:46:36,000 him these questions in the trial and I'm 998 00:46:40,069 --> 00:46:38,220 sure the responses will not be the happy 999 00:46:42,109 --> 00:46:40,079 ones so you're saying that during the 1000 00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:42,119 dependency of when my clients controlled 1001 00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:43,680 the account that they could have paid 1002 00:46:48,530 --> 00:46:46,800 back and yet they chose not to 100 and 1003 00:46:50,270 --> 00:46:48,540 your city is pissed and you're saying 1004 00:46:51,650 --> 00:46:50,280 instead of paying that back what did 1005 00:46:53,510 --> 00:46:51,660 they do with the monies what is your 1006 00:46:56,210 --> 00:46:53,520 claim I have no idea but they didn't 1007 00:46:57,589 --> 00:46:56,220 they they never paid him back so you 1008 00:47:00,109 --> 00:46:57,599 don't think that they spin it for the 1009 00:47:02,589 --> 00:47:00,119 business purposes that you wanted to be 1010 00:47:06,589 --> 00:47:02,599 done aren't the business purposes like 1011 00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:06,599 our uh payroll 1012 00:47:11,569 --> 00:47:09,599 you know pay they are getting money out 1013 00:47:14,150 --> 00:47:11,579 of it as well it was for the company the 1014 00:47:17,089 --> 00:47:14,160 company needs to pay it back paying 50 1015 00:47:18,770 --> 00:47:17,099 60 000 a year for your kids school 1016 00:47:20,569 --> 00:47:18,780 what about it 1017 00:47:24,170 --> 00:47:20,579 part of the business purposes 1018 00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:24,180 did this as a friend 1019 00:47:30,650 --> 00:47:28,319 as a friend uh offered to pay for our 1020 00:47:33,290 --> 00:47:30,660 kids school because our kids needed 1021 00:47:44,450 --> 00:47:33,300 special schooling and we couldn't afford 1022 00:47:48,410 --> 00:47:46,550 now Liz Laurie helped you set up new 1023 00:47:50,270 --> 00:47:48,420 bank accounts for monies to be sent 1024 00:47:54,410 --> 00:47:50,280 right 1025 00:47:56,030 --> 00:47:54,420 money is to be sent forever from SBA 1026 00:47:57,530 --> 00:47:56,040 so that they'd have different accounts 1027 00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:57,540 to go to correct 1028 00:48:02,089 --> 00:48:00,000 I still don't understand the question 1029 00:48:04,490 --> 00:48:02,099 Liz Laurie 1030 00:48:06,410 --> 00:48:04,500 helped you set up bank accounts 1031 00:48:08,270 --> 00:48:06,420 correct for what 1032 00:48:11,809 --> 00:48:08,280 did she ever set up any bank accounts 1033 00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:14,089 I set up my own bank accounts 1034 00:48:17,690 --> 00:48:16,319 I don't think she's set up any bank 1035 00:48:20,870 --> 00:48:17,700 accounts she didn't have any involvement 1036 00:48:22,609 --> 00:48:20,880 in you setting up bank accounts 1037 00:48:24,770 --> 00:48:22,619 I don't know if she advised me or not 1038 00:48:28,490 --> 00:48:24,780 but if she did it would be privileged 1039 00:48:50,410 --> 00:48:28,500 okay but I actually opened the accounts 1040 00:48:57,730 --> 00:48:54,230 now SBA entertainment LLC 1041 00:49:01,730 --> 00:48:57,740 you are not a member of that LLC 1042 00:49:04,190 --> 00:49:01,740 originally were you I have no idea 1043 00:49:06,470 --> 00:49:04,200 how did you become a member of SBA 1044 00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:06,480 entertainment LLC I don't remember 1045 00:49:10,370 --> 00:49:08,160 without the documentation 1046 00:49:13,010 --> 00:49:10,380 the managing member of that LLC I'll 1047 00:49:15,770 --> 00:49:13,020 represent to you is Leon Kennedy 1048 00:49:18,829 --> 00:49:15,780 are you talking about his business 1049 00:49:20,270 --> 00:49:18,839 talking about SBA entertainment LLC one 1050 00:49:22,849 --> 00:49:20,280 of the two entities that you understood 1051 00:49:25,630 --> 00:49:22,859 to be set up acting in concert that's 1052 00:49:30,530 --> 00:49:25,640 the one not in con yeah he mirrored my 1053 00:49:34,010 --> 00:49:30,540 uh company name yes he told me that the 1054 00:49:36,010 --> 00:49:34,020 other shareholders only trusted him to 1055 00:49:39,890 --> 00:49:36,020 have the money to deal with the money 1056 00:49:43,910 --> 00:49:39,900 and that he was setting up a business 1057 00:49:46,309 --> 00:49:43,920 under the same on name is mine to avoid 1058 00:49:47,870 --> 00:49:46,319 confusion with everything and did you 1059 00:49:48,890 --> 00:49:47,880 stop him or did you tell him not to do 1060 00:49:52,670 --> 00:49:48,900 it 1061 00:49:55,130 --> 00:49:52,680 he was advising me as the expert as uh 1062 00:49:57,050 --> 00:49:55,140 not answering my question yes I am 1063 00:49:59,870 --> 00:49:57,060 did you stop him or tell him not to do 1064 00:50:01,490 --> 00:49:59,880 it no he advised me as an expert okay 1065 00:50:03,170 --> 00:50:01,500 thank you 1066 00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:03,180 and the managing member of that 1067 00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:05,280 particular LLC was Leon Kennedy was it 1068 00:50:11,690 --> 00:50:07,920 not I believe so I've never seen okay 1069 00:50:14,150 --> 00:50:11,700 how did you become a member of that same 1070 00:50:16,069 --> 00:50:14,160 LLC did you forward your name on some 1071 00:50:17,809 --> 00:50:16,079 documents to become a member of the LLC 1072 00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:17,819 I don't I don't know what you're talking 1073 00:50:23,089 --> 00:50:19,680 about you don't remember ever becoming a 1074 00:50:25,970 --> 00:50:23,099 member of that LLC no I have my own LLC 1075 00:50:29,450 --> 00:50:28,309 by the same name yeah 1076 00:50:33,770 --> 00:50:29,460 I thought they were slightly different 1077 00:50:54,470 --> 00:50:33,780 no they're exactly the same name okay 1078 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,589 do you remember the 1079 00:51:03,589 --> 00:51:02,510 firm of brown Thornton placenta and 1080 00:51:05,630 --> 00:51:03,599 Company 1081 00:51:07,549 --> 00:51:05,640 not off the top of my head okay I 1082 00:51:09,770 --> 00:51:07,559 believe it's a accountant company you 1083 00:51:11,690 --> 00:51:09,780 don't remember them Alec Clark who 1084 00:51:13,609 --> 00:51:11,700 worked for them 1085 00:51:15,410 --> 00:51:13,619 that name sounds familiar do you 1086 00:51:16,130 --> 00:51:15,420 remember why he's no longer working with 1087 00:51:31,270 --> 00:51:16,140 you 1088 00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:34,309 we sent him an email 1089 00:51:39,410 --> 00:51:37,200 during the time that we opened the 1090 00:51:42,109 --> 00:51:39,420 lawsuits have you spoken to him the last 1091 00:51:44,770 --> 00:51:42,119 two to three years no you thanked him 1092 00:51:46,970 --> 00:51:44,780 for all he did for your kids yes 1093 00:51:48,049 --> 00:51:46,980 and when was the last time you spoken 1094 00:51:52,069 --> 00:51:48,059 with him 1095 00:52:08,569 --> 00:51:52,079 was about three years ago you said yeah 1096 00:52:14,930 --> 00:52:10,430 isn't it true that your attorneys 1097 00:52:17,750 --> 00:52:14,940 represented that the funds being held as 1098 00:52:21,410 --> 00:52:17,760 proceeds from cosmic Secret 1099 00:52:24,849 --> 00:52:21,420 and above Majestic were being held in 1100 00:52:27,049 --> 00:52:24,859 trust on audit was taking place 1101 00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:27,059 that was the original plan that it was 1102 00:52:30,430 --> 00:52:28,800 going to go into a trust we had it going 1103 00:52:33,770 --> 00:52:30,440 into by bank account 1104 00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:33,780 but we just never 1105 00:52:38,690 --> 00:52:36,240 implemented the escrow account 1106 00:52:39,530 --> 00:52:38,700 you just took the money I took some of 1107 00:52:43,790 --> 00:52:39,540 it 1108 00:52:45,589 --> 00:52:43,800 much I don't know approximately and 1109 00:52:46,849 --> 00:52:45,599 hundreds of thousands I don't know we're 1110 00:52:48,970 --> 00:52:46,859 going to have to 1111 00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:48,980 pull up the 1112 00:52:53,870 --> 00:52:51,839 it's all going to be given over in the 1113 00:52:55,730 --> 00:52:53,880 bank I mean in the depositions and 1114 00:52:57,950 --> 00:52:55,740 everything what bank name is it with 1115 00:52:59,569 --> 00:52:57,960 Wells Fargo it's the same bank that we 1116 00:53:02,569 --> 00:52:59,579 have all of our accounts in what's the 1117 00:53:02,579 --> 00:53:05,530 I think it's 1118 00:53:10,609 --> 00:53:08,089 documentary distributions I think is 1119 00:53:13,069 --> 00:53:10,619 what it is is that held as a DBA of 1120 00:53:16,309 --> 00:53:13,079 yourself or one of your entities it is 1121 00:53:17,150 --> 00:53:16,319 just its own private separate bank 1122 00:53:20,030 --> 00:53:17,160 account 1123 00:53:22,010 --> 00:53:20,040 is that an entity or a DBA it's just the 1124 00:53:25,010 --> 00:53:22,020 name of a bank account bank account you 1125 00:53:26,990 --> 00:53:25,020 get to name them and you have to have it 1126 00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:27,000 associated with an individual social 1127 00:53:32,650 --> 00:53:29,040 security number or a tax identification 1128 00:53:35,150 --> 00:53:32,660 it's a GES bank account 1129 00:53:38,030 --> 00:53:35,160 as I said in the beginning it is that 1130 00:53:43,730 --> 00:53:38,040 you get to name your uh bank accounts 1131 00:53:46,670 --> 00:53:45,230 and you're saying there's hundreds of 1132 00:53:48,170 --> 00:53:46,680 thousands that you've taken out of there 1133 00:53:51,829 --> 00:53:48,180 or that you've left in there they're 1134 00:53:55,849 --> 00:53:53,870 I have taken out quite a bit 1135 00:53:58,010 --> 00:53:55,859 what does quite a bit mean to you yeah 1136 00:54:00,290 --> 00:53:58,020 yeah over definitely over a hundred 1137 00:54:01,609 --> 00:54:00,300 thousand I would have to look at the 1138 00:54:04,730 --> 00:54:01,619 books and the numbers could it be over 1139 00:54:05,809 --> 00:54:04,740 two hundred thousand uh it could be how 1140 00:54:10,130 --> 00:54:05,819 much is left 1141 00:54:13,190 --> 00:54:11,210 um 1142 00:54:15,770 --> 00:54:13,200 between one and two hundred thousand the 1143 00:54:20,089 --> 00:54:15,780 last I looked okay for what what for 1144 00:54:25,190 --> 00:54:21,190 um 1145 00:54:27,290 --> 00:54:25,200 I've used let's see I've used some of it 1146 00:54:30,589 --> 00:54:27,300 to pay back the graphic novel 1147 00:54:32,990 --> 00:54:30,599 fund that was needed in the beginning 1148 00:54:35,750 --> 00:54:33,000 you know I mean that the the graphic 1149 00:54:38,630 --> 00:54:35,760 novel fund money that was taken to be 1150 00:54:41,870 --> 00:54:38,640 used for the documentary 1151 00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:41,880 that was never paid back 1152 00:54:48,470 --> 00:54:46,079 and that was I think eighty thousand 1153 00:54:50,450 --> 00:54:48,480 and the graphic novel that my clients 1154 00:54:53,390 --> 00:54:50,460 have an interest in that graphic novel 1155 00:54:55,309 --> 00:54:53,400 the old one they were helping me with 1156 00:54:56,870 --> 00:54:55,319 but there was no they had no interest in 1157 00:54:59,089 --> 00:54:56,880 it 1158 00:55:01,670 --> 00:54:59,099 so you're using monies that came in that 1159 00:55:03,349 --> 00:55:01,680 my clients do have an interest in and 1160 00:55:04,849 --> 00:55:03,359 paying debts in something that my 1161 00:55:07,010 --> 00:55:04,859 clients do not have an interest in 1162 00:55:15,049 --> 00:55:07,020 correct because of the situation they 1163 00:55:26,150 --> 00:55:17,270 just as is happening with the DVD money 1164 00:55:31,190 --> 00:55:29,870 the DVD money you guess I guess I have 1165 00:55:35,870 --> 00:55:31,200 no idea what's going on with all that 1166 00:55:41,030 --> 00:55:39,170 and you're producing an entire entire 1167 00:55:42,290 --> 00:55:41,040 transcript bank statements for that 1168 00:55:44,089 --> 00:55:42,300 account where you've taken that a couple 1169 00:55:46,190 --> 00:55:44,099 hundred thousand dollars correct 1170 00:55:48,770 --> 00:55:46,200 I I haven't yet but that's going to be 1171 00:55:51,049 --> 00:55:48,780 part of our production on 1172 00:55:53,710 --> 00:55:51,059 within the next 30 days is that when it 1173 00:55:56,270 --> 00:55:53,720 closes or whenever it closes up 1174 00:55:57,109 --> 00:55:56,280 do you believe production isn't closed 1175 00:56:01,849 --> 00:55:57,119 already 1176 00:56:03,650 --> 00:56:01,859 I thought it was October 25th so you 1177 00:56:05,030 --> 00:56:03,660 don't believe you have a duty to produce 1178 00:56:07,250 --> 00:56:05,040 documents already 1179 00:56:09,890 --> 00:56:07,260 I have been 1180 00:56:11,870 --> 00:56:09,900 so but you believe you have more time to 1181 00:56:15,650 --> 00:56:11,880 produce documents is that correct 1182 00:56:17,390 --> 00:56:15,660 well yeah just like your clients 1183 00:56:18,710 --> 00:56:17,400 if they haven't produced any Bank 1184 00:56:20,569 --> 00:56:18,720 documents 1185 00:56:23,089 --> 00:56:20,579 we've requested over and over have you 1186 00:56:24,829 --> 00:56:23,099 requested these documents 1187 00:56:26,329 --> 00:56:24,839 specifically I'm not here to answer 1188 00:56:28,790 --> 00:56:26,339 questions 1189 00:56:33,549 --> 00:56:28,800 so uh so you believe that you have more 1190 00:56:37,190 --> 00:56:35,809 I was under I was under the impression 1191 00:56:39,290 --> 00:56:37,200 that we had 1192 00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:39,300 to have everything in and everything 1193 00:56:45,609 --> 00:56:42,960 closed by October 25th 1194 00:56:45,619 --> 00:56:50,569 but we've been producing 1195 00:57:04,010 --> 00:56:52,370 all the documentation and everything we 1196 00:57:09,470 --> 00:57:06,109 now the audit that you were talking 1197 00:57:12,890 --> 00:57:09,480 about doing two and a half years ago uh 1198 00:57:17,150 --> 00:57:15,230 well as soon as we get your client's 1199 00:57:18,130 --> 00:57:17,160 bank account information and submit it 1200 00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:18,140 to 1201 00:57:27,530 --> 00:57:23,520 working on this there's someone through 1202 00:57:28,970 --> 00:57:27,540 our accountants that our accountants 1203 00:57:32,470 --> 00:57:28,980 have 1204 00:57:35,690 --> 00:57:32,480 connections to people that do forensic 1205 00:57:38,569 --> 00:57:35,700 accounting and auditing 1206 00:57:40,849 --> 00:57:38,579 okay and 1207 00:57:41,930 --> 00:57:40,859 uh that is that the same firm you're 1208 00:58:11,569 --> 00:57:41,940 going to fill in the blank for me 1209 00:58:14,630 --> 00:58:13,130 yeah I'll represent to you that my 1210 00:58:17,390 --> 00:58:14,640 client have clients have not been 1211 00:58:20,630 --> 00:58:17,400 receiving monies for DVDs for over 1212 00:58:23,630 --> 00:58:20,640 several years so I would welcome knowing 1213 00:58:26,270 --> 00:58:23,640 from you why you believe that my clients 1214 00:58:28,010 --> 00:58:26,280 are receiving monies from DVDs in the 1215 00:58:28,670 --> 00:58:28,020 last several years 1216 00:58:30,170 --> 00:58:28,680 um 1217 00:58:33,730 --> 00:58:30,180 as of 1218 00:58:36,650 --> 00:58:33,740 maybe a week or two ago we found other 1219 00:58:39,410 --> 00:58:36,660 DVD Distributors who are Distributing 1220 00:58:42,589 --> 00:58:39,420 these DVDs right but but what would 1221 00:58:44,150 --> 00:58:42,599 connect them to my clients because I'm 1222 00:58:45,950 --> 00:58:44,160 telling you that I don't have any 1223 00:58:47,390 --> 00:58:45,960 information about connecting that to my 1224 00:58:49,910 --> 00:58:47,400 clients do you I don't know people like 1225 00:58:51,530 --> 00:58:49,920 other attorneys sometimes my question is 1226 00:58:53,870 --> 00:58:51,540 do you have anything connecting those 1227 00:58:56,089 --> 00:58:53,880 DVD sales to my clients the most recent 1228 00:58:57,010 --> 00:58:56,099 ones in the last two years in the last 1229 00:58:59,329 --> 00:58:57,020 two years 1230 00:59:01,130 --> 00:58:59,339 other than the emails that we're getting 1231 00:59:01,910 --> 00:59:01,140 from people 1232 00:59:04,670 --> 00:59:01,920 um 1233 00:59:06,589 --> 00:59:04,680 with I don't know how far those go back 1234 00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:06,599 so I'd have to have the documentation in 1235 00:59:10,010 --> 00:59:08,160 front of me but you produced all of 1236 00:59:11,329 --> 00:59:10,020 those emails that would indicate that my 1237 00:59:12,970 --> 00:59:11,339 clients are involved in the last two 1238 00:59:15,289 --> 00:59:12,980 years 1239 00:59:17,030 --> 00:59:15,299 if they're involved in the last two 1240 00:59:19,609 --> 00:59:17,040 years in the emails all the emails have 1241 00:59:22,069 --> 00:59:19,619 been provided okay 1242 00:59:24,950 --> 00:59:22,079 but it will be interesting to find out 1243 00:59:30,309 --> 00:59:24,960 who's uh behind the current DVD sales 1244 00:59:36,770 --> 00:59:33,829 what about the feature film treatment 20 1245 00:59:39,049 --> 00:59:36,780 and and back uh what percentage 1246 00:59:42,530 --> 00:59:39,059 ownership do you claim and proceeds from 1247 00:59:45,530 --> 00:59:42,540 that or is that ever sold is never sold 1248 00:59:47,809 --> 00:59:45,540 okay and who held the IP on that was 1249 00:59:49,490 --> 00:59:47,819 that you me yeah okay did anyone else 1250 00:59:51,349 --> 00:59:49,500 have an interest in it if it was to be 1251 00:59:53,150 --> 00:59:51,359 sold 1252 00:59:56,750 --> 00:59:53,160 um there was people were going to have 1253 01:00:02,870 --> 00:59:56,760 points in uh the film yeah and who are 1254 01:00:14,230 --> 01:00:08,030 anyone else let's see yeah Roger 1255 01:00:20,630 --> 01:00:17,569 okay same thing for the TV series 1256 01:00:23,089 --> 01:00:20,640 treatment for 20 and back yes 1257 01:00:26,870 --> 01:00:23,099 same percentages yes 1258 01:00:29,690 --> 01:00:26,880 okay what about the blue avions 1259 01:00:33,650 --> 01:00:29,700 docu-series that was never discussed 1260 01:00:35,990 --> 01:00:33,660 what was never discussed percentages 1261 01:00:39,349 --> 01:00:36,000 so do you own do you own the IP for that 1262 01:00:41,210 --> 01:00:39,359 yeah yeah Roger and Leon didn't want to 1263 01:00:42,950 --> 01:00:41,220 pitch it so 1264 01:00:47,450 --> 01:00:42,960 um they that's one of the things Leon 1265 01:00:50,450 --> 01:00:47,460 told me was pie in the sky but turns out 1266 01:00:53,690 --> 01:00:50,460 really probably wasn't 1267 01:00:56,390 --> 01:00:53,700 okay and uh you sold that 1268 01:00:59,210 --> 01:00:56,400 sold what yeah you've made money off the 1269 01:01:00,470 --> 01:00:59,220 blue avion's docu-series no none of 1270 01:01:02,329 --> 01:01:00,480 these things are made 1271 01:01:04,849 --> 01:01:02,339 these are all 1272 01:01:07,430 --> 01:01:04,859 concept concept same thing with what 1273 01:01:09,470 --> 01:01:07,440 about dimensions of disclosure event 1274 01:01:12,710 --> 01:01:09,480 what about it okay did you ever make 1275 01:01:14,329 --> 01:01:12,720 money off that yes okay and who else 1276 01:01:16,490 --> 01:01:14,339 made money off that 1277 01:01:19,069 --> 01:01:16,500 anyone else have any points in it uh 1278 01:01:21,410 --> 01:01:19,079 yeah I believe uh 1279 01:01:22,849 --> 01:01:21,420 Roger and Adrian 1280 01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:22,859 anyone else 1281 01:01:26,150 --> 01:01:24,480 not that I know of 1282 01:01:28,370 --> 01:01:26,160 and what was the division between you 1283 01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:28,380 Roger and Adrian in the dimensions of 1284 01:01:34,910 --> 01:01:31,920 disclosure event originally I was told 1285 01:01:37,069 --> 01:01:34,920 that I was 50 but later on they started 1286 01:01:41,150 --> 01:01:37,079 telling me that that was not the deal 1287 01:01:47,750 --> 01:01:44,630 but anyway yes we were 1288 01:01:50,150 --> 01:01:47,760 supposed to I'll be part owners and 1289 01:01:52,430 --> 01:01:50,160 dimensions of disclosure and did you 1290 01:01:54,829 --> 01:01:52,440 ever formalize that into a writing 1291 01:01:56,930 --> 01:01:54,839 as far as your your points and 1292 01:01:58,789 --> 01:01:56,940 dimensions of disclosure 1293 01:02:02,990 --> 01:01:58,799 I 1294 01:02:05,329 --> 01:02:03,000 in contract so yeah well all this was 1295 01:02:08,450 --> 01:02:05,339 done uh out of off the seat of our pants 1296 01:02:10,309 --> 01:02:08,460 we were going to do an event and then uh 1297 01:02:11,930 --> 01:02:10,319 a bunch of stuff happened to where we 1298 01:02:14,030 --> 01:02:11,940 couldn't do it Adrian came in and she 1299 01:02:16,490 --> 01:02:14,040 said I can I can do it and we ran it 1300 01:02:18,109 --> 01:02:16,500 through my business the first year or 1301 01:02:20,630 --> 01:02:18,119 two 1302 01:02:23,270 --> 01:02:20,640 um and it was just it we it was 1303 01:02:27,470 --> 01:02:23,280 something that we were building off of 1304 01:02:29,450 --> 01:02:27,480 my IP and uh 1305 01:02:32,030 --> 01:02:29,460 and it's 1306 01:02:34,430 --> 01:02:32,040 we just never never got contracts I 1307 01:02:36,589 --> 01:02:34,440 guess okay so you never formalize a 1308 01:02:38,990 --> 01:02:36,599 contractual relationship between you 1309 01:02:40,309 --> 01:02:39,000 Roger and Adrian for the dimensions of 1310 01:02:42,170 --> 01:02:40,319 disclosure event 1311 01:02:45,049 --> 01:02:42,180 so we had discussed I just can't 1312 01:02:46,430 --> 01:02:45,059 remember if anything was ever uh we'd 1313 01:02:50,870 --> 01:02:46,440 have to check the documents to see what 1314 01:02:59,390 --> 01:02:55,250 and uh what did Roger do 1315 01:03:01,970 --> 01:02:59,400 for the IP in in that or the efforts to 1316 01:03:06,430 --> 01:03:01,980 create that event 1317 01:03:11,329 --> 01:03:08,089 and 1318 01:03:14,750 --> 01:03:11,339 um helped run the audio video 1319 01:03:16,190 --> 01:03:14,760 presentations during the first couple I 1320 01:03:19,010 --> 01:03:16,200 think 1321 01:03:20,750 --> 01:03:19,020 AV Audio Video 1322 01:03:23,150 --> 01:03:20,760 did Roger do anything else other than 1323 01:03:25,609 --> 01:03:23,160 audio video and flyers 1324 01:03:30,710 --> 01:03:25,619 eventually he spoke at one of them I 1325 01:03:37,789 --> 01:03:32,990 okay anything else done by Roger for the 1326 01:03:42,230 --> 01:03:40,789 yeah I think that's all I can yeah what 1327 01:03:43,910 --> 01:03:42,240 about for Adrian what did Adrian 1328 01:03:45,770 --> 01:03:43,920 Youngblood do for the dimensions of 1329 01:03:51,770 --> 01:03:45,780 disclosure events she scouted out the 1330 01:03:53,630 --> 01:03:51,780 locations and handled uh organizing all 1331 01:03:58,549 --> 01:03:53,640 of the people that came to speak and to 1332 01:04:01,309 --> 01:03:58,559 volunteer that's pretty common uh people 1333 01:04:04,190 --> 01:04:01,319 who have events they have a person that 1334 01:04:07,430 --> 01:04:04,200 runs events for them that does pretty 1335 01:04:10,069 --> 01:04:07,440 much all of that work okay and as for 1336 01:04:13,549 --> 01:04:10,079 myself I did uh you know all the 1337 01:04:16,609 --> 01:04:13,559 advertising David and I we used my uh 1338 01:04:19,789 --> 01:04:16,619 email list to build the company my fan 1339 01:04:22,250 --> 01:04:19,799 base to build the company all of our it 1340 01:04:23,870 --> 01:04:22,260 was all built off of our popularity from 1341 01:04:26,750 --> 01:04:23,880 cosmic disclosure 1342 01:04:30,170 --> 01:04:26,760 okay and built off your popularity from 1343 01:04:32,510 --> 01:04:30,180 cosmic this book you said Cosmic uh 1344 01:04:37,370 --> 01:04:32,520 sorry disposure is better but yeah 1345 01:04:42,230 --> 01:04:39,650 and um the email list how big of an 1346 01:04:46,370 --> 01:04:42,240 email list do you have 1347 01:04:52,609 --> 01:04:46,380 at that time at that time I think it was 1348 01:04:59,930 --> 01:04:55,010 okay and what about social media 1349 01:05:02,710 --> 01:04:59,940 social media at that time I think I had 1350 01:05:11,270 --> 01:05:02,720 over a hundred thousand on Facebook 1351 01:05:17,569 --> 01:05:14,690 that's all I can think of at the moment 1352 01:05:19,910 --> 01:05:17,579 and I was on I was being interviewed all 1353 01:05:23,990 --> 01:05:19,920 the time I was on radio shows 1354 01:05:26,809 --> 01:05:24,000 I even got to advertise the cosmic 1355 01:05:29,329 --> 01:05:26,819 secret with on the Jenny McCarthy show 1356 01:05:31,010 --> 01:05:29,339 uh got some really good exposure for it 1357 01:05:32,630 --> 01:05:31,020 for Cosmic secretary we're talking about 1358 01:05:34,670 --> 01:05:32,640 dimensions of disclosure the cosmic 1359 01:05:36,530 --> 01:05:34,680 secret okay I'm talking about dimensions 1360 01:05:37,250 --> 01:05:36,540 of disclosure I think we got sidelined 1361 01:05:40,609 --> 01:05:37,260 there I thought we were talking about 1362 01:05:43,130 --> 01:05:40,619 all three there for a minute yeah so uh 1363 01:05:44,870 --> 01:05:43,140 so dimensions of disclosure do you 1364 01:05:46,910 --> 01:05:44,880 believe you have anything that prevents 1365 01:05:48,410 --> 01:05:46,920 Miss Youngblood from going on with that 1366 01:05:50,870 --> 01:05:48,420 event without you 1367 01:05:54,230 --> 01:05:50,880 well yeah it's 1368 01:05:55,549 --> 01:05:54,240 you know all three of us owned it 1369 01:05:59,170 --> 01:05:55,559 um 1370 01:06:02,569 --> 01:05:59,180 she hijacked it and went and got a 1371 01:06:06,650 --> 01:06:02,579 trademark behind our back not just not 1372 01:06:08,650 --> 01:06:06,660 telling me but Roger and the others knew 1373 01:06:11,270 --> 01:06:08,660 when I talked to him about it 1374 01:06:12,349 --> 01:06:11,280 she had talked with I guess them in the 1375 01:06:13,370 --> 01:06:12,359 background and they all decided that 1376 01:06:16,370 --> 01:06:13,380 yeah she should go ahead and get the 1377 01:06:17,990 --> 01:06:16,380 trademark did you into leave me out did 1378 01:06:20,450 --> 01:06:18,000 you want to keep on going with the 1379 01:06:23,089 --> 01:06:20,460 dimensions of disclosure event yeah 1380 01:06:25,730 --> 01:06:23,099 and what and you want to keep on 1381 01:06:27,950 --> 01:06:25,740 Advertising for it yep everyone saw it 1382 01:06:30,170 --> 01:06:27,960 as Corey's event that's it was 1383 01:06:32,809 --> 01:06:30,180 advertised as Corey's event everyone 1384 01:06:34,250 --> 01:06:32,819 knew it as Cory's event if you we have 1385 01:06:36,650 --> 01:06:34,260 tons and tons of social media 1386 01:06:38,750 --> 01:06:36,660 advertising to where it's Cory's event 1387 01:06:40,970 --> 01:06:38,760 so people Associated dimensions of 1388 01:06:44,450 --> 01:06:40,980 disclosure with Corey well when it 1389 01:06:48,529 --> 01:06:45,890 she trademarked it it was someone else 1390 01:06:50,089 --> 01:06:48,539 right no it was someone else what are 1391 01:06:51,890 --> 01:06:50,099 you talking about when she you said she 1392 01:06:53,930 --> 01:06:51,900 trademarked it at one point right yeah I 1393 01:06:56,089 --> 01:06:53,940 found out about it at our last event on 1394 01:06:57,650 --> 01:06:56,099 my way home I found out that she had 1395 01:07:00,349 --> 01:06:57,660 trademarked it and they haven't done an 1396 01:07:02,270 --> 01:07:00,359 event since okay well wasn't it in 2019 1397 01:07:05,210 --> 01:07:02,280 didn't it still happen 1398 01:07:07,490 --> 01:07:05,220 I found out after the event right so it 1399 01:07:09,170 --> 01:07:07,500 wasn't Corey's event that year yeah 1400 01:07:11,630 --> 01:07:09,180 it was something everyone knew it as 1401 01:07:14,390 --> 01:07:11,640 Corey's event there was no one else that 1402 01:07:17,210 --> 01:07:14,400 was the head speaker but so no one else 1403 01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:17,220 ever spoke at it no other people did but 1404 01:07:23,450 --> 01:07:20,640 it was billed and promoted to the entire 1405 01:07:26,029 --> 01:07:23,460 Community as Cory's event 1406 01:07:27,470 --> 01:07:26,039 if you went into any person in the 1407 01:07:29,089 --> 01:07:27,480 community and say hey if you heard of 1408 01:07:30,650 --> 01:07:29,099 dimensions of disclosure the disclosure 1409 01:07:32,150 --> 01:07:30,660 oh yeah Corey's event 1410 01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:32,160 that's 1411 01:07:42,710 --> 01:07:37,200 had no value 1412 01:07:44,750 --> 01:07:42,720 no I'm sure my my IP all of my fans had 1413 01:07:46,010 --> 01:07:44,760 built it up to be worth multi-million 1414 01:07:49,430 --> 01:07:46,020 dollars 1415 01:07:52,490 --> 01:07:49,440 okay it was all of my fans coming that 1416 01:07:54,829 --> 01:07:52,500 made this uh what it is so you're saying 1417 01:07:58,430 --> 01:07:54,839 it was did it make multi-million dollars 1418 01:08:01,970 --> 01:07:58,440 during the several years that you ran it 1419 01:08:04,250 --> 01:08:01,980 would well it it's it grew the first 1420 01:08:05,390 --> 01:08:04,260 year there were a lot of mistakes on 1421 01:08:08,569 --> 01:08:05,400 both sides we're trying to figure out 1422 01:08:09,710 --> 01:08:08,579 how to do it second year better it 1423 01:08:11,210 --> 01:08:09,720 wasn't the third year it wasn't the 1424 01:08:14,390 --> 01:08:11,220 first year you booked a venue in August 1425 01:08:15,890 --> 01:08:14,400 that was just gonna be baking hot in 1426 01:08:17,209 --> 01:08:15,900 some theater that they don't even book 1427 01:08:20,749 --> 01:08:17,219 in August 1428 01:08:24,550 --> 01:08:20,759 I I didn't do all of the bookings for uh 1429 01:08:28,249 --> 01:08:24,560 eclipse of disclosure uh Adrian went out 1430 01:08:31,789 --> 01:08:28,259 and spoke to all the people and got 1431 01:08:33,829 --> 01:08:31,799 everything set up we paid the bills we 1432 01:08:35,809 --> 01:08:33,839 didn't make the arrangements okay so so 1433 01:08:37,430 --> 01:08:35,819 Adrian really took the laboring ore as 1434 01:08:39,169 --> 01:08:37,440 far as making the arrangements for the 1435 01:08:40,729 --> 01:08:39,179 first year yeah she made the screw-ups 1436 01:08:42,890 --> 01:08:40,739 that you were talking about 1437 01:08:45,110 --> 01:08:42,900 okay and you put in a lot of The Sweat 1438 01:08:49,849 --> 01:08:45,120 Equity right yeah and she put in a lot 1439 01:08:52,970 --> 01:08:51,709 but there's no name had been on the on 1440 01:08:54,829 --> 01:08:52,980 the trademark there would not have been 1441 01:08:56,990 --> 01:08:54,839 a problem but there's nothing in writing 1442 01:08:58,849 --> 01:08:57,000 as far as whose event it is or who owns 1443 01:09:00,950 --> 01:08:58,859 it right 1444 01:09:02,870 --> 01:09:00,960 uh that I'm not sure of we'd have to 1445 01:09:04,689 --> 01:09:02,880 look through the documentation and look 1446 01:09:07,910 --> 01:09:04,699 at emails and all of that 1447 01:09:12,110 --> 01:09:07,920 and who's David mispronounced his last 1448 01:09:16,550 --> 01:09:12,120 name David ickeys David Ike or ick who's 1449 01:09:18,530 --> 01:09:16,560 he he is a well-known speaker in ufology 1450 01:09:19,729 --> 01:09:18,540 when you say well known what do you mean 1451 01:09:22,729 --> 01:09:19,739 by that 1452 01:09:25,189 --> 01:09:22,739 um a lot of people know him 1453 01:09:26,689 --> 01:09:25,199 to assimilar to you yes 1454 01:09:28,970 --> 01:09:26,699 he's been around a lot longer than me 1455 01:09:31,990 --> 01:09:28,980 though okay so would it be fair to say 1456 01:09:35,870 --> 01:09:32,000 he has a bigger following probably 1457 01:09:38,930 --> 01:09:35,880 in 2019 heated the event not you right 1458 01:09:42,829 --> 01:09:38,940 no he did not okay who did the event in 1459 01:09:45,169 --> 01:09:42,839 uh 2019 me okay what about in 2020 there 1460 01:09:47,269 --> 01:09:45,179 was no event in 2020 okay and what it 1461 01:09:49,249 --> 01:09:47,279 was in the fall or summer 1462 01:09:51,410 --> 01:09:49,259 uh yeah they kept setting him up in 1463 01:09:53,390 --> 01:09:51,420 August they every year they were set up 1464 01:09:56,870 --> 01:09:53,400 in like 1465 01:10:01,070 --> 01:09:56,880 during right before school but in uh 1466 01:10:03,110 --> 01:10:01,080 2019 it was it was David and you no 1467 01:10:05,270 --> 01:10:03,120 David never spoke 1468 01:10:06,950 --> 01:10:05,280 so David wasn't part of the 2019 event 1469 01:10:09,470 --> 01:10:06,960 of dimensions of disclosure he was never 1470 01:10:12,410 --> 01:10:09,480 a part of dimensions of disclosure other 1471 01:10:13,850 --> 01:10:12,420 than he had agreed to speak and then Jay 1472 01:10:17,810 --> 01:10:13,860 Weidner one of the people that they're 1473 01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:17,820 confabbing with uh called him and told 1474 01:10:23,630 --> 01:10:19,920 him that I was a criminal 1475 01:10:25,669 --> 01:10:23,640 so uh because it was known to be Corey's 1476 01:10:28,390 --> 01:10:25,679 event so he pulled out of the event 1477 01:10:32,450 --> 01:10:28,400 who's he pulled out of there David Ike 1478 01:10:34,010 --> 01:10:32,460 based on Jay Weidner telling him to pull 1479 01:10:37,610 --> 01:10:34,020 out of it 1480 01:10:41,209 --> 01:10:37,620 um because of you yeah because of me 1481 01:10:46,130 --> 01:10:43,550 well isn't your reputation strong enough 1482 01:10:49,090 --> 01:10:46,140 that likes would know that you're not a 1483 01:10:54,290 --> 01:10:49,100 problem but you're a fine upstanding guy 1484 01:10:57,110 --> 01:10:54,300 like I said in the ufology field it's 1485 01:10:59,330 --> 01:10:57,120 fraught with gossip and all sorts of 1486 01:11:01,370 --> 01:10:59,340 stuff like that so 1487 01:11:03,350 --> 01:11:01,380 um who knows I mean what he had heard 1488 01:11:05,330 --> 01:11:03,360 between the cyberstalkers 1489 01:11:07,610 --> 01:11:05,340 you see that was 1490 01:11:10,070 --> 01:11:07,620 um the the Cyber stalkers were putting 1491 01:11:13,250 --> 01:11:10,080 out all this incredibly vicious horrible 1492 01:11:15,770 --> 01:11:13,260 stuff about me and all 1493 01:11:19,130 --> 01:11:15,780 um one would have to do is do their due 1494 01:11:22,729 --> 01:11:19,140 diligence if uh Jay told David Ike say 1495 01:11:25,070 --> 01:11:22,739 Hey you know Corey uh he's a uh you know 1496 01:11:28,189 --> 01:11:25,080 whatever he's he's breaking he's a 1497 01:11:30,709 --> 01:11:28,199 breaking the law and then David searches 1498 01:11:32,689 --> 01:11:30,719 the internet well guess what he finds 1499 01:11:35,270 --> 01:11:32,699 thousands and thousands of entries of 1500 01:11:37,669 --> 01:11:35,280 people calling me a criminal a con man 1501 01:11:39,169 --> 01:11:37,679 and everything in between well why are 1502 01:11:41,689 --> 01:11:39,179 so many people calling you a criminal in 1503 01:11:43,370 --> 01:11:41,699 a comment they're cyber stalkers 1504 01:11:45,770 --> 01:11:43,380 why do you why don't I have so many 1505 01:11:47,330 --> 01:11:45,780 cyber stalkers 1506 01:11:49,189 --> 01:11:47,340 it's a good question why do you have so 1507 01:11:50,810 --> 01:11:49,199 many because I'm a public figure what 1508 01:11:52,970 --> 01:11:50,820 about David eikey why didn't he have so 1509 01:11:55,130 --> 01:11:52,980 many cyber stockings he has a lot he 1510 01:11:57,770 --> 01:11:55,140 does he has a fair amount he has he's 1511 01:12:00,110 --> 01:11:57,780 he's he's gone through 1512 01:12:02,750 --> 01:12:00,120 his story in the persecution that he's 1513 01:12:04,430 --> 01:12:02,760 gone through is a movie in its own does 1514 01:12:05,930 --> 01:12:04,440 he have four or five active lawsuits 1515 01:12:06,770 --> 01:12:05,940 we're assuming people right now right 1516 01:12:09,830 --> 01:12:06,780 now 1517 01:12:11,270 --> 01:12:09,840 four or five like you I have four or 1518 01:12:13,130 --> 01:12:11,280 five lawsuits 1519 01:12:14,990 --> 01:12:13,140 I think so you do 1520 01:12:16,669 --> 01:12:15,000 what do you think I think I have two 1521 01:12:19,729 --> 01:12:16,679 that's it 1522 01:12:20,510 --> 01:12:19,739 yeah you only think this and Gaia that's 1523 01:12:22,610 --> 01:12:20,520 it 1524 01:12:27,530 --> 01:12:22,620 objection yeah 1525 01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:29,570 uh do you claim an ownership over the 1526 01:12:35,090 --> 01:12:32,400 dimensions of disclosure live stream 1527 01:12:36,950 --> 01:12:35,100 partial is it the same ratio as the 1528 01:12:38,630 --> 01:12:36,960 dimension of the disclosure of it it's 1529 01:12:41,330 --> 01:12:38,640 all the same it's like it's part of the 1530 01:12:43,850 --> 01:12:41,340 same company part of the same event 1531 01:12:46,070 --> 01:12:43,860 yeah but that was never memorialized as 1532 01:12:47,330 --> 01:12:46,080 far as their ownership or Ratio or how 1533 01:12:49,370 --> 01:12:47,340 your IPO is going to be protected 1534 01:12:51,169 --> 01:12:49,380 objection it's amazing now you can see 1535 01:12:53,149 --> 01:12:51,179 why the community doesn't like the 1536 01:12:55,850 --> 01:12:53,159 judicial system very much because you 1537 01:12:58,610 --> 01:12:55,860 never memorialized it because it's 1538 01:13:01,010 --> 01:12:58,620 that's how this community does it that 1539 01:13:02,570 --> 01:13:01,020 none of them ever do it's like pulling 1540 01:13:05,270 --> 01:13:02,580 teeth to get contracts from these people 1541 01:13:07,490 --> 01:13:05,280 none of them ever do those are some 1542 01:13:10,970 --> 01:13:07,500 pretty absolute words none of them ever 1543 01:13:13,370 --> 01:13:10,980 do yeah that is uh but for the most part 1544 01:13:17,149 --> 01:13:13,380 it's like pulling teeth to get contracts 1545 01:13:23,270 --> 01:13:20,270 okay what company did put the dimensions 1546 01:13:25,370 --> 01:13:23,280 of disclosure on in 2019 1547 01:13:28,370 --> 01:13:25,380 what company did 1548 01:13:30,410 --> 01:13:28,380 um oh Adrian the last year Adrian ran it 1549 01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:30,420 through her company 1550 01:13:40,189 --> 01:13:37,070 um well the whole deal was is that we 1551 01:13:42,370 --> 01:13:40,199 had been approached uh told that she was 1552 01:13:45,110 --> 01:13:42,380 about to lose her Farm 1553 01:13:48,410 --> 01:13:45,120 and it was going into bankruptcy all 1554 01:13:50,149 --> 01:13:48,420 this stuff and Roger said hey this year 1555 01:13:53,169 --> 01:13:50,159 do you think we can just give it all to 1556 01:13:56,750 --> 01:13:53,179 her and let her pull herself out of 1557 01:13:58,370 --> 01:13:56,760 bankruptcy and I I said yes so you 1558 01:14:01,370 --> 01:13:58,380 agreed to give it all to Adrian 1559 01:14:04,430 --> 01:14:01,380 Youngblood in 2019 to let her take the 1560 01:14:06,910 --> 01:14:04,440 uh all the all the percentages to pay 1561 01:14:10,130 --> 01:14:06,920 off her 1562 01:14:12,350 --> 01:14:10,140 delinquencies with her Farm 1563 01:14:13,070 --> 01:14:12,360 did you see these delinquencies with the 1564 01:14:16,130 --> 01:14:13,080 farm 1565 01:14:19,729 --> 01:14:16,140 no but Adrian herself has put in the 1566 01:14:23,270 --> 01:14:19,739 paperwork that she was losing her Farm 1567 01:14:25,430 --> 01:14:23,280 in 2019 yeah 1568 01:14:27,229 --> 01:14:25,440 did you receive emails from Adrian in 1569 01:14:32,330 --> 01:14:27,239 2019 saying that she was losing the farm 1570 01:14:33,770 --> 01:14:32,340 no I was told through Roger and I it was 1571 01:14:36,709 --> 01:14:33,780 common knowledge that she was having 1572 01:14:38,689 --> 01:14:36,719 some problems and Roger on a phone with 1573 01:14:41,390 --> 01:14:38,699 Leon me 1574 01:14:44,750 --> 01:14:41,400 and Roger me and Leon were on a phone 1575 01:14:48,050 --> 01:14:44,760 call and we had a lot going on in and 1576 01:14:49,490 --> 01:14:48,060 and Roger said so this year 1577 01:14:52,610 --> 01:14:49,500 um 1578 01:14:53,870 --> 01:14:52,620 I really wanted I thought it would be 1579 01:14:57,290 --> 01:14:53,880 um really amazing if we could help 1580 01:15:00,410 --> 01:14:57,300 Adrian not lose her Farm by letting her 1581 01:15:02,169 --> 01:15:00,420 uh have the proceeds uh my you know and 1582 01:15:06,290 --> 01:15:02,179 I was like and I said yes 1583 01:15:10,970 --> 01:15:08,510 um just uh I'll just do it for a speaker 1584 01:15:12,830 --> 01:15:10,980 feed this year what was your speaker fee 1585 01:15:14,810 --> 01:15:12,840 in 2019 1586 01:15:16,490 --> 01:15:14,820 that's supposed to be seven or eight 1587 01:15:17,870 --> 01:15:16,500 grand or something I don't know do you 1588 01:15:20,990 --> 01:15:17,880 receive the seven or eight thousand I 1589 01:15:24,890 --> 01:15:21,000 think so yes I received the money I was 1590 01:15:26,810 --> 01:15:24,900 supposed to live stream and all that 1591 01:15:30,290 --> 01:15:26,820 do you claim ownership in the cosmic 1592 01:15:31,490 --> 01:15:30,300 co-creation affiliate program 1593 01:15:35,149 --> 01:15:31,500 in the what 1594 01:15:37,430 --> 01:15:35,159 Cosmic co-creation affiliate program 1595 01:15:39,350 --> 01:15:37,440 I'm not sure I know what that is okay 1596 01:15:43,130 --> 01:15:39,360 do you claim any kind of ownership in 1597 01:15:46,570 --> 01:15:43,140 the master quest online course 1598 01:15:49,729 --> 01:15:46,580 um that was a concept 1599 01:15:50,750 --> 01:15:49,739 by people on the East Coast that we were 1600 01:15:54,890 --> 01:15:50,760 dealing with so it would have been 1601 01:15:59,750 --> 01:15:57,010 when you say there's who's they 1602 01:16:01,550 --> 01:15:59,760 I have to get their names 1603 01:16:04,550 --> 01:16:01,560 I can't remember their names right now 1604 01:16:06,350 --> 01:16:04,560 they're not yours no they're two former 1605 01:16:10,130 --> 01:16:06,360 military people that were going to teach 1606 01:16:13,189 --> 01:16:10,140 a master quest class on Surviving in the 1607 01:16:16,250 --> 01:16:13,199 woods and all of that if I'm remembering 1608 01:16:19,130 --> 01:16:16,260 correctly okay what about um let me ask 1609 01:16:22,370 --> 01:16:19,140 you as far as contacting the desert do 1610 01:16:25,070 --> 01:16:22,380 you ever perform there yes one time I 1611 01:16:29,390 --> 01:16:25,080 think uh did you ever fail to perform 1612 01:16:31,550 --> 01:16:29,400 due to alcohol no or drugs no 1613 01:16:33,790 --> 01:16:31,560 did your field perform at let's say 1614 01:16:37,130 --> 01:16:33,800 contact the desert for any reason no 1615 01:16:42,110 --> 01:16:37,140 about uh Cosmic co-creation did you ever 1616 01:16:47,630 --> 01:16:45,530 is that the one at eTown 1617 01:16:49,490 --> 01:16:47,640 to the best your knowledge yeah I think 1618 01:16:52,729 --> 01:16:49,500 I did did you ever fail to perform 1619 01:16:54,470 --> 01:16:52,739 because of drugs or alcohol no uh I we 1620 01:16:58,430 --> 01:16:54,480 that was like 1621 01:17:00,830 --> 01:16:58,440 the day or a few days within a short 1622 01:17:03,110 --> 01:17:00,840 period of time after Gaia fired me 1623 01:17:06,590 --> 01:17:03,120 and we had all of these threats going 1624 01:17:08,630 --> 01:17:06,600 back and forth and I was 1625 01:17:10,490 --> 01:17:08,640 a little preoccupied but I was 1626 01:17:13,130 --> 01:17:10,500 completely sober 1627 01:17:14,990 --> 01:17:13,140 when you say preoccupy my mind was on 1628 01:17:17,330 --> 01:17:15,000 other things and I during the 1629 01:17:21,229 --> 01:17:17,340 presentation I was kept it was hard for 1630 01:17:22,970 --> 01:17:21,239 me to focus because of all the stress 1631 01:17:23,930 --> 01:17:22,980 how do you know it was hard for you to 1632 01:17:25,729 --> 01:17:23,940 focus 1633 01:17:28,669 --> 01:17:25,739 because I remember sitting up on that 1634 01:17:31,790 --> 01:17:28,679 stage at eTown 1635 01:17:35,149 --> 01:17:31,800 and what and what happened I kept uh 1636 01:17:38,450 --> 01:17:35,159 forgetting what I was saying and I just 1637 01:17:41,450 --> 01:17:38,460 kept the stuff with guy I just kept 1638 01:17:45,649 --> 01:17:41,460 coming into my head and it 1639 01:17:47,090 --> 01:17:45,659 affected but I didn't uh the there's you 1640 01:17:48,890 --> 01:17:47,100 know in every event there's always like 1641 01:17:50,930 --> 01:17:48,900 two three people that come and demand a 1642 01:17:54,410 --> 01:17:50,940 refund that's just weird people but 1643 01:17:57,169 --> 01:17:54,420 everyone else is extremely uh Happy 1644 01:17:59,209 --> 01:17:57,179 um at the event correct because we had 1645 01:18:01,970 --> 01:17:59,219 to meet and greet afterwards and it was 1646 01:18:03,649 --> 01:18:01,980 everybody was extremely happy why do you 1647 01:18:07,550 --> 01:18:03,659 believe that my client 1648 01:18:10,550 --> 01:18:07,560 had a fiduciary duty to you 1649 01:18:11,930 --> 01:18:10,560 it's very vague sure in your documents 1650 01:18:12,830 --> 01:18:11,940 you submitted with a court have you read 1651 01:18:15,709 --> 01:18:12,840 them 1652 01:18:19,070 --> 01:18:15,719 yes in your documents you said something 1653 01:18:21,410 --> 01:18:19,080 about Kennedy having a fiduciary duty 1654 01:18:23,209 --> 01:18:21,420 what do you understand a fiduciary duty 1655 01:18:26,450 --> 01:18:23,219 to be 1656 01:18:30,229 --> 01:18:26,460 a fiduciary duty uh 1657 01:18:32,530 --> 01:18:30,239 his fiduciary duty was to handle all of 1658 01:18:37,510 --> 01:18:32,540 the finances 1659 01:18:40,370 --> 01:18:37,520 contracts and negotiations for 1660 01:18:46,310 --> 01:18:40,380 what we were to make 1661 01:18:48,890 --> 01:18:46,320 and he was to distribute the documentary 1662 01:18:54,709 --> 01:18:51,490 howdy let's do the first one 1663 01:18:56,209 --> 01:18:54,719 that you just said he's to distribute 1664 01:18:59,270 --> 01:18:56,219 All the Monies 1665 01:19:01,729 --> 01:18:59,280 what monies do you believe Kennedy did 1666 01:19:04,610 --> 01:19:01,739 not distribute properly if any 1667 01:19:06,470 --> 01:19:04,620 the documentary Monies 1668 01:19:09,890 --> 01:19:06,480 how much approximately do you believe 1669 01:19:12,290 --> 01:19:09,900 that is I I don't know 1670 01:19:14,149 --> 01:19:12,300 can you give a best estimate no not 1671 01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:14,159 until we get the bank accounts and do 1672 01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:16,080 all the 1673 01:19:20,090 --> 01:19:18,480 accounting other than the bank accounts 1674 01:19:22,250 --> 01:19:20,100 is there anywhere else you would look to 1675 01:19:24,290 --> 01:19:22,260 get that information 1676 01:19:25,430 --> 01:19:24,300 what what's your information again the 1677 01:19:28,669 --> 01:19:25,440 information as far as how much 1678 01:19:30,590 --> 01:19:28,679 documentary monies my client failed to 1679 01:19:34,250 --> 01:19:30,600 distribute to you 1680 01:19:38,390 --> 01:19:36,290 like documentation that sort of thing 1681 01:19:41,450 --> 01:19:38,400 not not that I can think of right off 1682 01:19:43,430 --> 01:19:41,460 hand I'd have to see what we have in our 1683 01:19:44,990 --> 01:19:43,440 so it could be ten thousand it could be 1684 01:19:46,189 --> 01:19:45,000 a million you have no idea it's not 1685 01:19:49,010 --> 01:19:46,199 going to be a million the film hasn't 1686 01:19:50,630 --> 01:19:49,020 made that much how much is it made 1687 01:19:53,090 --> 01:19:50,640 um 1688 01:19:55,490 --> 01:19:53,100 to be honest I would think maybe maybe 1689 01:19:57,830 --> 01:19:55,500 they've both made a million or a little 1690 01:20:01,250 --> 01:19:57,840 over when you say they they both who's 1691 01:20:02,510 --> 01:20:01,260 together uh both films 1692 01:20:05,570 --> 01:20:02,520 so you think there's a million 1693 01:20:07,550 --> 01:20:05,580 approximately for both films right that 1694 01:20:09,290 --> 01:20:07,560 overall that's been made I that's what I 1695 01:20:10,850 --> 01:20:09,300 that's my guesstimate and we say both 1696 01:20:12,050 --> 01:20:10,860 films you're referring to 1697 01:20:13,610 --> 01:20:12,060 uh 1698 01:20:27,530 --> 01:20:13,620 above 1699 01:20:30,649 --> 01:20:28,610 foreign 1700 01:20:33,229 --> 01:20:30,659 and so you're saying these bank accounts 1701 01:20:35,870 --> 01:20:33,239 you're going to be able to see how much 1702 01:20:38,390 --> 01:20:35,880 in monies came in from those two films 1703 01:20:41,990 --> 01:20:38,400 and that you believe my client Mr 1704 01:20:44,330 --> 01:20:42,000 Kennedy hasn't distributed money's uh 1705 01:20:45,530 --> 01:20:44,340 properly from those two that's my belief 1706 01:20:47,930 --> 01:20:45,540 okay 1707 01:20:49,790 --> 01:20:47,940 and it's somewhere between 1708 01:20:51,709 --> 01:20:49,800 you're saying approximately a million so 1709 01:20:54,050 --> 01:20:51,719 somewhere around that's how much the 1710 01:20:56,570 --> 01:20:54,060 film's brought I'm 1711 01:20:58,310 --> 01:20:56,580 guessing that the film's brought in 1712 01:21:00,350 --> 01:20:58,320 total I understand how much I'm saying 1713 01:21:03,290 --> 01:21:00,360 he he misappropriated 1714 01:21:03,300 --> 01:21:10,490 God 1715 01:21:13,729 --> 01:21:12,290 there's a lot of money going back and 1716 01:21:15,830 --> 01:21:13,739 forth between his charity and that 1717 01:21:18,169 --> 01:21:15,840 account and it was very bothersome and 1718 01:21:19,370 --> 01:21:18,179 worrisome what charity 1719 01:21:21,770 --> 01:21:19,380 the 1720 01:21:24,830 --> 01:21:21,780 Leon Leon's 1721 01:21:26,689 --> 01:21:24,840 religious charity okay what religious 1722 01:21:28,250 --> 01:21:26,699 charity you're referring to 1723 01:21:30,649 --> 01:21:28,260 can't remember the name of it he told me 1724 01:21:35,030 --> 01:21:30,659 he created it after he lost a lawsuit to 1725 01:21:37,189 --> 01:21:35,040 avoid having to pay out those uh uh 1726 01:21:39,410 --> 01:21:37,199 losses in that lawsuit 1727 01:21:41,270 --> 01:21:39,420 okay do you remember what religion is 1728 01:21:44,930 --> 01:21:41,280 affiliated with no 1729 01:21:46,610 --> 01:21:44,940 okay and so what uh so you're saying 1730 01:21:49,070 --> 01:21:46,620 there's a lot of money's flowing back 1731 01:21:50,570 --> 01:21:49,080 and forth between what account 1732 01:21:55,010 --> 01:21:50,580 and what account 1733 01:21:56,930 --> 01:21:55,020 well until we see the uh documentation I 1734 01:21:59,149 --> 01:21:56,940 won't know how much money but Leon had 1735 01:22:02,209 --> 01:21:59,159 admitted that money was going back and 1736 01:22:05,750 --> 01:22:02,219 forth he was using it to he'd send money 1737 01:22:07,610 --> 01:22:05,760 to one to like pay for like going to 1738 01:22:10,310 --> 01:22:07,620 like some Hollywood dinner event to 1739 01:22:11,570 --> 01:22:10,320 promote stuff he was money was going 1740 01:22:14,149 --> 01:22:11,580 back and forth 1741 01:22:17,030 --> 01:22:14,159 okay I think that's the reason we we 1742 01:22:27,169 --> 01:22:17,040 haven't gotten uh those documents uh in 1743 01:22:32,750 --> 01:22:29,810 the speculation until we in the next 1744 01:22:36,370 --> 01:22:32,760 couple of weeks received it uh okay so 1745 01:22:38,570 --> 01:22:36,380 the dimensions of disclosure events uh 1746 01:22:40,189 --> 01:22:38,580 you you expect that you should have 1747 01:22:43,270 --> 01:22:40,199 received a hundred thousand dollars from 1748 01:22:48,169 --> 01:22:43,280 that or seven thousand dollars from that 1749 01:22:51,110 --> 01:22:48,179 I should have received a percentage of 1750 01:22:53,810 --> 01:22:51,120 the overall money that came in but that 1751 01:22:56,689 --> 01:22:53,820 year I had agreed to not receive the 1752 01:22:59,510 --> 01:22:56,699 money and to only be paid a speaker's 1753 01:23:02,209 --> 01:22:59,520 fee so that Adrian could save her farm 1754 01:23:04,310 --> 01:23:02,219 and it's 2019 when you say that year yes 1755 01:23:08,030 --> 01:23:04,320 19. did you get all the monies you were 1756 01:23:17,030 --> 01:23:10,810 2018 1757 01:23:19,189 --> 01:23:17,040 mostly through our accounts 1758 01:23:22,130 --> 01:23:19,199 did you distribute All the Monies that 1759 01:23:25,070 --> 01:23:22,140 Adrian was owed for the 2018. yes we 1760 01:23:28,070 --> 01:23:25,080 distributed All the Monies that we were 1761 01:23:29,590 --> 01:23:28,080 basically given a list this of uh paid 1762 01:23:33,050 --> 01:23:29,600 this to this person this to this person 1763 01:23:35,630 --> 01:23:33,060 uh this account or whatever and uh Stacy 1764 01:23:38,689 --> 01:23:35,640 went and made all of the wire transfers 1765 01:23:41,229 --> 01:23:38,699 and uh check payments did you give a 1766 01:23:47,209 --> 01:23:41,239 full accounting to Adrian for that 2018 1767 01:23:52,189 --> 01:23:49,850 I'm not sure we'll have to check the 1768 01:23:55,130 --> 01:23:52,199 all the documentation did you give Roger 1769 01:23:57,649 --> 01:23:55,140 a full accounting of that 2018 DOD event 1770 01:23:59,930 --> 01:23:57,659 I'm sure we did it's we're going to have 1771 01:24:02,030 --> 01:23:59,940 to uh 1772 01:24:03,350 --> 01:24:02,040 dig it out in the documentation during 1773 01:24:04,970 --> 01:24:03,360 that time period that was a long time 1774 01:24:06,290 --> 01:24:04,980 ago when you send or receive 1775 01:24:08,870 --> 01:24:06,300 documentation would you get that 1776 01:24:11,510 --> 01:24:08,880 typically by email 1777 01:24:13,790 --> 01:24:11,520 documentation was typically yes by email 1778 01:24:16,189 --> 01:24:13,800 okay and you do not delete any emails 1779 01:24:17,450 --> 01:24:16,199 correct so every email is for our 1780 01:24:19,189 --> 01:24:17,460 documentation you would have that still 1781 01:24:20,870 --> 01:24:19,199 I would yeah and you would have produced 1782 01:24:22,729 --> 01:24:20,880 that to your attorney already right yes 1783 01:24:24,890 --> 01:24:22,739 it should be if it if that information 1784 01:24:29,090 --> 01:24:24,900 is in there it will be in what was 1785 01:24:32,810 --> 01:24:31,370 excuse me cancel five minutes you're 1786 01:24:35,330 --> 01:24:32,820 good it's perfect I need to go to the 1787 01:24:38,149 --> 01:24:35,340 bathroom in five minutes